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idbjorh
06-28-2016, 01:49 AM
OK everyone, what's your preferred routing to attach zipper pulls to your zippers to quiet them?

I don't know if they have proper names, so I call this one the "Figure 8" style:

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or the "Hitch" style:

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I've used the "Figure 8" for a while, but with a new bag, considering an alternative.

Any other suggestions?

BWeaves
06-28-2016, 03:20 AM
Are zippers noisy? I never noticed.

I didn't put those extra pulls on my bags because I thought it just made it easier for pickpockets to open my bag, or that the dangles would get caught on things. Is there a benefit to having them on the zipper pulls?

Update: I dragged my WF out of the closet. I guess the zipper pulls do jangle a bit, but I like the security of hearing them.

bintobeen
06-28-2016, 01:05 PM
The second way is the way I do it (although on one bag I just snipped the metal since it was so annoying) to reduce the noise somewhat. For all of the careful attention to design with TB bags, his insistence on those awful clangy zippers really stands out.

Amy G
06-28-2016, 01:57 PM
I use the figure 8 for most of my bags, especially those with smaller zippers. I use the hitch style on my A30 and A45 because the zippers are larger.

Nice paracord by the way. I have a reflective one that looks like Island that I use on my Halcyon bags and it makes me smile.

terayon
06-28-2016, 08:54 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the metal tabs myself, but some people are and it's pretty easy to remove them. I replaced them with reflective paracord snake knots. I like having the one for the water bottle pocket in a different colour because it's easy to tell someone which pocket the water bottle is in that way.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160629/d40e51a9d06683ae60f61db9174d42fa.jpg

thomamas
07-03-2016, 07:11 PM
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This is very quiet.

Sejour
07-04-2016, 05:41 AM
I haven't done this myself but I've heard about heat shrinking rubber tubing around the metal part of the zip. That would completely silence it. Another option would be using Plasti-Dip. That would be much easier than heat shrinking and it would probably work better.

Peruvian
07-05-2016, 08:00 AM
For all of the careful attention to design with TB bags, his insistence on those awful clangy zippers really stands out.
Chalk it up to downgrade of materials in order to reduce cost, but raising the prices in order to increase revenue.

Ilkyway
07-05-2016, 09:10 AM
Hmmm I cant see how YKK water resistend zippers are in anyway "downgrade in material" but I am not knowladgable when it comes to zippers and maybe there is even something better around? Within the YKK lineup the water resistend ones shirely are not the cheepest?

But I have to say I am a hige fan of the knew gunmetal zippers. I prefear this look infinitifly over the old reversed zippers, so I am propably biased.

Ilkyway

tpnl
07-05-2016, 09:19 AM
While I agree that a good company always looks to reduce cost, I do not believe that TB sacrifices quality (I would not be buying their bags if they were).

Some personal experiences to add:

I have a 2004 Brain Bag and it has "clangy" zippers - so no change (downgrade or otherwise) from what I can tell. The zipper durability has actually been upgraded over time by TB changing how the zippers are sewn in - the older "upside down", rubber showing version tended to show wear over time. The current version does not have this problem.

Also note that this "clangy" sound is most likely part of the YKK company's zipper design and not TB. I do not believe TB specifically asked YKK for special "clangy" zippers that are not used in other bags (though that would be a funny conversation when testing for just the right "clangyness' :))

Having the metal zipper pulls provides an option for those who want the metal there (maybe security as @BWeaves posts, maybe preference) or the option to remove them and put in the paracord pulls like @terayon posted or some combo of both like @thomamas and @idbjorh posted.

I like that TB provides you the option and even provides the hardware for both (hence the paracord pulls included with each bag).

Note that in my first S25 in 2014, the metal zipper pulls were not even an option while my new one has them. I like having the option. It provides a bit of piece of mind (false or otherwise :)) to here the sound and know my zipper ends are close to each other - ie closed.

Bottom line
Hopefully the sound does not bother most too much. If it does, I am glad TB provides the option to use paracord to help lessen or eliminate the sound ... and provides a creative outlet to personalize your bag.

Cheers!

BWeaves
07-14-2016, 09:24 AM
I decided to try the figure 8 on my bag, and I was surprised how much of a difference it made. I hadn't really heard the zippers before, but now it is much quieter. Plus, I find the pulls easier to grab than the little metal tabs.

jujigatame
07-14-2016, 10:11 PM
Either of the first two methods shown are what I tend to use. The girth hitch can be removed and replaced without untying anything while the figure 8 is more set in place once you've done it. I prefer not put anything through the loop at the top of the slider body so the movement of the pull is uninhibited.

backpack
07-15-2016, 01:09 AM
I also love the fact that TB Crew gives us the choice to use the zippers, as is, or extend with zipper pulls they are kind enough to offer, and the paracords they took the time to custom design to match the bags colors.

I was not bothered by the older upside down zipper design, I never heard any noise, and I really like the right side up matter steel new zippers. I don't feel the need to use zipper pull on my bags outside zippers. I kind of like them stealthy.

But, I loooove using the cute zipper pulls on the majority of my accessories, to differentiate bags and make smaller zipper easier to use.


I love the videos and pictures of people who have lots of dangling cute items on their zippers.

barefoot
08-29-2016, 02:39 PM
I am a barefoot trail runner/hiker who appreciates the quietude. I cut off all my (jangly) metal zipper pulls and replace them with the (muffled) cord pulls. I really like the way they look and their ease of use.

Lani
08-29-2016, 03:46 PM
I am a barefoot trail runner/hiker who appreciates the quietude.

I, too am a trail runner, but I could never imagine running the trails in bare feet!! Kudos to you.

blueflax
09-16-2016, 10:45 AM
This is what I figured out to do to stop the jingle jangle...

This is what I did on the S19:

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But it was still pretty jingly. On the SE, which has to be quiet, I did this:

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Which, since it goes through the zipper part as well as the pull really softens the noise. The other benefit is that by putting it behind the pull, it is pulling the way the zipper wants to open and close, so it makes it easier to operate, if that makes sense. They do kind of stick out, but it helps me see if a zipper is open or not

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blueflax
09-16-2016, 12:05 PM
Another photo:

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I tried threading the cord through the slider, then both of the holes on the pull, but it made everything too stiff for the pull to move freely. I think you could do it with thinner cord...

GrussGott
09-16-2016, 10:26 PM
A forum member recommend this paracord (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E631SNK/), "a touch of grey", for Black Halcyon (can't find who/where now but thanks mystery person!). You can buy 50' on Amazon for $5.50.

Anyway, I tried it out tonight with some of the recommendations here and I think it looks awesome. I did the reverse threading from the picture above because I like to have the cord showing when the zippers are closed ... don't know why I prefer that, but I did. As a note, this paracord is much thicker than Bihn's so it requires more patience but wasn't tough. The clips uninstall so if you screw up or want to change it, it's not too bad. Here's what it looks like:

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It's a night shot with a flash so a lot of artifacts in there ... I can take a better one if anyone cares. I'm going to install on my pilot and A45 tomorrow.

adalangdon
09-16-2016, 10:33 PM
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I note your upside-down zipper pull installation. Personal preference?



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blueflax
09-16-2016, 11:41 PM
Looks very nice!

moriond
09-17-2016, 07:53 AM
A forum member recommend this paracord (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E631SNK/), "a touch of grey", for Black Halcyon (can't find who/where now but thanks mystery person!). You can buy 50' on Amazon for $5.50.

Anyway, I tried it out tonight with some of the recommendations here and I think it looks awesome.

For people who want to check out the original Paracord recommendation, and the pictures that were attached, I believe the post (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/9001-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-post127117.html#post127117) by @Bijouxandbeads [#130] in the Share Your Bag Hacks/Creative Uses (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/9001-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses.html) thread is the source:


For all you Black Halcyon and paracord lovers out there: This Touch of Gray (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E631SNK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) paracord on Amazon matches black Halcyon beautifully. I haven't finished all my zipper pulls yet, but wanted to share what's done so far (handle and one zipper pull). (I've been having trouble remembering which of the two middle zippers to unzip to get to my keys, so decided to add a visual reminder.)
https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/15810d1465838085-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-image-jpeg
https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/15811d1465838111-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-image-jpeg


(There's also additional discussion in that thread about Reflective Black Paracord (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GZQBG6K/), which @Bijouxandbeads uses with Original (Black) Halcyon.)

HTH

moriiond

slbear
09-17-2016, 09:02 AM
Just added the stock pulls to my A30. This is compact and sturdy, and I think doubled up looks symmetrical.

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GrussGott
09-17-2016, 11:03 AM
Thanks Moriond! I finished out my Pilot and A45, looks great!

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GrussGott
09-18-2016, 01:10 PM
I added some zipper pulls to the my DLBP

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BWeaves
09-22-2016, 10:37 AM
I plan on braiding some kumihimo (Japanese braiding) for customized zipper pulls.

Is there an easy way to get the TB zipper pulls off so I can reuse the hardware of the end tabs?
Or would I be better off just buying new zipper pull hardware off the accessories page?

moriond
09-22-2016, 10:46 AM
Is there an easy way to get the TB zipper pulls off so I can reuse the hardware of the end tabs?
Or would I be better off just buying new zipper pull hardware off the accessories page?

@BWeaves, You should be able to reuse your zipper pulls. See the HOW DO YOU REMOVE zipper pulls? (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/11251-how-do-you-remove-zipper-pulls.html) thread.

HTH

moriond

GrussGott
09-22-2016, 11:42 AM
Is there an easy way to get the TB zipper pulls off so I can reuse the hardware of the end tabs?
Or would I be better off just buying new zipper pull hardware off the accessories page?

I put this over on the other thread too - if you have a basic pliers:

I use a pliers and it's super easy with no damage:

(1.) Gently use the pliers to hold - not grab or squeeze - the tab insert - use the first large plier serration to fit around the zipper pull insert edges:
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(2.) Use your other hand to grip the pull barrel and slide it up - they slide very easily and come right off
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BWeaves
09-22-2016, 12:33 PM
Thanks! I thought it would be harder than that.

UPDATE: That doesn't work for me. It might be that you have your zipper pulls installed upside down.

My TB faces the other direction, like in the zipper pull video. When I put them on, they snapped pretty tightly shut. Mine won't budge.

shoplarry
09-26-2016, 04:21 AM
Just added the stock pulls to my A30. This is compact and sturdy, and I think doubled up looks symmetrical.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160917/cf5d63cbd682d9a660ed2464cbf387e7.jpg


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I've ever seen it done this way! I'm going to try it!


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shoplarry
09-26-2016, 04:51 AM
I just made this video on how to remove the plastic zipper pulls https://youtu.be/I-igZUj4xFM


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blueflax
09-26-2016, 09:25 PM
That is so helpful. And clever. Thank you

ZoeBios121
10-17-2016, 03:16 PM
I'm looking for one myself. I hate making any noise while walking.

The best I've seen is this: Basically melt paracord together into a loop and put heatshrink tubing on it: https://youtu.be/subTAJjlxeQ (really low volume but you can mostly watch anyway)

Given how beefy the Pilot (my first TB!) zippers are, I like the idea of being able to open and close them with one finger.

I'll post pictures if I end up doing this

Sasquatch
10-29-2016, 01:34 PM
Another vote for removing the noisy metal zipper pulls (tin snips or small bolt cutters work well here), then replacing them with 550 paracord and adhesive-lined shrink tubing (3/8" tubing is good match).

1. Remove metal zipper pulls.
2. Cut a length of 550 paracord (may need to gut inner strands for room). Use a little more than you think you'll need.
3. Route paracord through zipper, but don't tie a knot yet.
4. Cut about 1-1.5" of adhesive heat shrink tubing, put in place on paracord (exactly where you want it), and use a heat gun to shrink tubing/melt glue.
5. Tie knot with excess paracord, cut off any excess length.
6. Use a lighter to melt frayed ends of paracord together.

Credit where credit is due: This gives you the style of zipper pull that Goruck and other gear companies are using.

No relation to the company, but Ancor's marine grade heat-shrink tubing works really well. You can find it in all sorts of sizes and colors. Link here: Heat Shrink | ancor (http://www.ancorproducts.com/en/products/wiremanagement/heatshrink)

And here's a photo of the DIY zipper pulls all finished up:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5616/30647362185_d3951c469b_c.jpg

blueflax
04-08-2017, 03:30 PM
Thank you again for this brilliant maneuver

linh.n
11-11-2017, 04:08 PM
Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but anyone regret doing a zipper pull removal (though, only 1 of you looks like you went that route). I feel odd putting snips to a brand new A45... but that jangle.

My S25 has no metal pulls. And I can't remember if I cut them or if they came that way... it was the old inverted (relative to now) aquagaurd zippers.

terayon
11-11-2017, 05:00 PM
The inverted zips (teeth not visible) all came with cord pulls, not metal ones. I am not a fan of the metal pulls myself; Iíve taken them off all my bags and replaced them with snake-knot paracord pulls (on my Synapses) or the cord pulls the bag came with (Aeronaut).

I regret nothing! In fact, Iíve found that I like making the pulls - choosing the colour(s), experimenting with knots...

RickW
01-31-2018, 03:39 AM
sorry to resurrect an old thread - and not sure if slbear still around but does this stop the noise also? Like the compact look

kirbysgirl
02-14-2018, 10:30 PM
Hi everyone,

I love the idea of wrapping the handle of the S19/25 in paracord! I have really bad grip, so this would be great for me, Does anyone know if TB sells lengths of paracord aside from the zipper pull kits? I'm looking at getting an S25 in cloud/ultraviolet and I want Ultraviolet paracord for my zippers and top handle. I also like the idea of snake knots instead of the zippers (the noise and better grip).

Kirbysgirl

AlaskaGirl
02-15-2018, 03:34 AM
Greetings,
Yes, they are called Cord Zipper Pulls. However, they seem to be missing on the Tom Bihn website. You might want to give customer service a call and ask if they have any. Good luck! elisa

threeteez
02-15-2018, 06:13 AM
There are 5 yard lengths of paracord in the drop down menu under the cord zipper pulls in the accessories section.

brucep
02-28-2018, 04:36 PM
anyone regret doing a zipper pull removal

Never.

* TOM BIHN Cord Zipper Pull (https://www.tombihn.com/products/cord-zipper-pulls?variant=16560980295) (lanyard knot)
* CountyComm/Maratac Zipper Pull (https://countycomm.com/products/zipper-pull-hi-viz-zombie-green-3-pack?variant=43123331404) and Cord (https://countycomm.com/products/pharaoh-cord-50-feet)

bintobeen
09-08-2018, 05:18 AM
I haven't done this myself but I've heard about heat shrinking rubber tubing around the metal part of the zip. That would completely silence it. Another option would be using Plasti-Dip. That would be much easier than heat shrinking and it would probably work better.

Been a while, but I just Plasti Dip-ped one zipper on a Pilot.. Still jangles, because its tough to get the plasti around the whole metal tab; it easily goes around the majority but not around the small "inner" ring. Is there a method that would work better:21057