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bouncing
12-21-2016, 11:39 AM
I think Tom Bihn should make something similar to the Freudian Slip, but instead of focusing on writing instruments, make it for in-flight comfort. What you'd have is something that you pull out of your bag and hang on the tray table or seatback in front of you which includes:


A hanging cup holder for your water bottle
Cell phone pocket
Tablet/e-reader pocket
Passport pocket
Pen pocket (for customers form)
Eyemask, earplugs, etc
Wallet
Maybe other comfort items


I always struggle to keep all my stuff organized in a flight, especially in some of those economy seats where the seatback in front of you doesn't have an expanding pocket. Most recently I spent probably 30 minutes searching the floor for a fallen headphone adapter. I've seen some companies attempt to make a seatback organizer, but I have a feeling you all at Tom Bihn might do a better job.

Just a thought. Flying is a miserable experience, compounded by disorganization.

:D

wayoflife
12-21-2016, 12:51 PM
I know this is not from TB, but it might work for you. It called RECON IPAD CADDY by ALPHA ONE NINER. 1726817269

Kaadk
12-21-2016, 02:02 PM
It's been a while since I've been on a plane, but back when I flew regularly the FAs were pretty through about making sure bags were stored under the seat in front of you, no laptops or other heavy items allowed in the seat back pockets, etc... I'd think something like this would also need to be stored for takeoff and landing.

That being said, in my "catching up on everything TB" perusals of these forums since joining last month, I've come across a few that refer to people using some of the smaller TB bags, (side effect? PCSB?) clipped to the seat backs for this purpose. I'm sure tpnl or morind will be along shortly to show specifically which posts.

bouncing
12-21-2016, 02:37 PM
I know this is not from TB, but it might work for you. It called RECON IPAD CADDY by ALPHA ONE NINER.

That's more or less the idea, yeah. I've also been looking at the Flight 001 Seat Pak:

17270

Same general idea. I'll probably get that one unless I see something better. Just thought it might be something for Tom Bihn to consider, given all the clever organization pouches and similar items they sell.

:)

pammy
12-21-2016, 02:58 PM
I've always liked this picture from Ms. Ferret showing a Side Effect and Vapur bottle.
https://forums.tombihn.com/photos-videos-and-reviews/6614-side-effect-s-biners-seat-pocket-bag.html

For international travel, I clip on a PCSB to the seat pocket and it works great. I've only been scolded one time for doing that and the FA did not make me remove it. She said it's a new Dreamliner and they want it to continue looking new. After the second scolding, I offered to remove the bag and show her the contents to prove it wasn't damaging the seat pocket but she didn't want to see it.

Kshni
12-21-2016, 03:05 PM
Well, the Side Effect, Side Kick, or Packing Cube Shoulder Bag, teamed up with a pair of Double C/Karabiners seems to do a sufficient job. Added bonus of the zips and o-rings to keep it all inside if it drops off the pocket.

Every airline's slightly different, and every country is slightly different. Example: I could go through security in the USA to London with fine metal double-pointed knitting needles, but there's no way I could do that from London to the USA. So allowance or prohibition of a bag hung on the seat back pocket will probably vary too much for TB to make a flight-specific FS.

It's a nice idea though :)

moriond
12-21-2016, 04:00 PM
I've always liked this picture from Ms. Ferret showing a Side Effect and Vapur bottle.
https://forums.tombihn.com/photos-videos-and-reviews/6614-side-effect-s-biners-seat-pocket-bag.html

For international travel, I clip on a PCSB to the seat pocket and it works great. I've only been scolded one time for doing that and the FA did not make me remove it. She said it's a new Dreamliner and they want it to continue looking new. After the second scolding, I offered to remove the bag and show her the contents to prove it wasn't damaging the seat pocket but she didn't want to see it.

Just as a followup, this method (with the Side Effect) is shown in the first of the Tom Bihn Forum Hacks on Vimeo Video (https://vimeo.com/160672777):

Start the video at about 1:30 (skipping over earlier hacks). This method is shown for the Side Effect, but also works for the Packing Cube Shoulder Bag and the Side Kick. It uses double carabiner clips (https://www.tombihn.com/products/parts?variant=16645157063), which can independently swivel into the best connection position, and also clip into the bulkier attachment points for shoulder straps used by the PCSB and Side Kick (e.g., photos shown in the Clipping Bags to Seatback Pockets (https://forums.tombihn.com/questions-about-bags/11250-clipping-bags-seatback-pockets.html) thread.)


There are lots of variations for this. For example, @conejo23 used this

ok, just read that other thread that gave the initial idea of using the clips and saw this:



On my last long haul trip I just used the waist strap of my SideEffect to strap it to the tray table. Pull it tight and close the tray, just hangs there like it was meant to be.

Worked great for easy access without killing legroom and disappeared under the tray during meal time.



That is an AWESOME idea. Would elevate it up away from the knees. So maybe I won't cut those straps off just yet.

There are lots of alternative variations discussed in the forums.

@bzn posted (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/10431-attn-moriond-please-side-effect-post113481.html#post113481) in the Attn: moriond (please): Side Effect (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/10431-attn-moriond-please-side-effect.html) thread:



I do this EXACT same thing with a mesh cube and the side effect. I was just going to post these photos on Instagram but might as well just post here:

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/13845d1448747863-attn-moriond-please-side-effect-imageuploadedbytapatalk1448747861-043600-jpg

I have two bags that I keep at the seat with me: a mesh cube and a Side Effect. The cube has any chargers or cables that I may need during the flight.

The Side Effect has toothbrush, hand sanitizer, pain killers and sleep inducers, Kind bars, my passport, etc.

The hook of the mesh cube fits perfectly over the seat in front in business class on the 767s (works better on 777s and 747s even). Since the side effect lacks a hook, I suspend it from the mesh cube.

and I wrote back:

@bzn, If you want your Side Effect to hang horizontally under your 3D Mesh Organizer Cube, you can hook 8" key straps between the O-rings of the two bags. Here's a picture showing the way that @scribe rigged this up (http://forums.tombihn.com/packing-lists-and-travel-tips/7509-wirecutter-guide-traveling-well-post63413.html#post63413) to create a toiletry bag set up using two 3D Clear Organizer Cubes and 8" key straps:
https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/packing-lists-and-travel-tips/6044d1398581940-wirecutter-guide-traveling-well-double_cube-jpg

That sequence was from a discussion of toiletry kits in the old Wirecutter Guide to Traveling Well (http://forums.tombihn.com/packing-lists-and-travel-tips/7509-wirecutter-guide-traveling-well.html) thread. (I'll just note that they've changed some of their recommendations since then, but a Tom Bihn bag continues to hold their top recommendation for non-roller bag carry-on luggage.)

The Side Effect is slightly larger than the 3D Organizer cube, but the result is pretty similar. If you don't want so much space between the 3D Organizer Cube and the suspended Side Effect, you can use a pair of double carabiner clips to join the two accessories through the side O-rings. The bottom of the organizer pouch sits a little above the top of the Side Effect zipper in this configuration, and it looks like this:

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/13848d1448754068-attn-moriond-please-side-effect-img_2888-jpg

Note that this won't work well if your Side Effect is really heavy and your 3D organizer cube is nearly empty, since the sides of the 3D organizer cube will simply collapse.

Sorry for the not great picture, but I had to find some place where I could suspend the 3D cube from a hook to show you how it would hang.

HTH

moriond

GrussGott
12-21-2016, 10:27 PM
I use a PCSB with small snake charmers all of the time and I've never been asked about it or flagged by FAs - Mine is black halcyon so I think that helps:

Bulkhead:

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/photos-videos-and-reviews/16942d1480212654-your-photos-needed-tbimg_20161125_105348-jpg

Normal:

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/photos-videos-and-reviews/16944d1480212657-your-photos-needed-tbimg_20161125_145247-jpg

bouncing
12-22-2016, 03:23 AM
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions, everyone.

I ordered a Side Kick (similar?), a Cadet, some accessories, and am getting a couple of those swivel carabiners from Amazon. I'm thinking I'll put the Side Kick either on the floor (but still quite organized) or hang it from a seatback pocket like you all are doing. Then when I deplane, I can just zip it up, grab my Cadet from the overhead, and be on my way. (I'm a checked bag person, does that make me untrendy here? :) )

You all are a wealth of knowledge and advice with travel geekery. Cheers!

moriond
12-22-2016, 08:59 AM
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions, everyone.

I ordered a Side Kick (similar?), a Cadet, some accessories, and am getting a couple of those swivel carabiners from Amazon. I'm thinking I'll put the Side Kick either on the floor (but still quite organized) or hang it from a seatback pocket like you all are doing. Then when I deplane, I can just zip it up, grab my Cadet from the overhead, and be on my way. (I'm a checked bag person, does that make me untrendy here? :) )

You all are a wealth of knowledge and advice with travel geekery. Cheers!

@bouncing,

Just wanted to add, since you ordered a Side Kick, if you want to carry letter size paper inside, you might try this suggestion from @monisbrett (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/1855-tb-anticipation-syndrome-148.html) that was originally made for the Field Journal Notebook, whose cross-section is very similar to the Side Kick. It can be ordered from Staples or Amazon. If you want to carry U.S. letter size paper folded in half in the Side Kick, you can do it, but you won't have a lot of clearance space on the sides. The neat feature of these pockets is that they open / unfold to give you access to the full sheet. Knitters like these for patterns because they can access both sides of a page for pictures and instructions, but you can also store a number of folded pages in one of these Avery Mini Binder pockets. And if you have a Field Journal Notebook, you can insert them into the 3-ring binder.


They are called "Avery Mini Assorted Binder Pockets for 5.5 x 8.5-Inches Binders."
You can also find them on Amazon.
Here are some pictures of how they work.

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/11387d1429906998-tb-anticipation-syndrome-dscn1142-jpg
https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/11388d1429907155-tb-anticipation-syndrome-dscn1143-jpg
https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/11389d1429907159-tb-anticipation-syndrome-dscn1144_2-2-jpg
https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/11390d1429907569-tb-anticipation-syndrome-dscn1145-jpg


HtH
moriond