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knowmadiq
03-23-2017, 01:44 AM
Hi
Iím asking for advice re the cafe bag. Iím using a bag of this type for the first time and want to know how other users are carrying their coffee / tea / cold drinks flask. I use a Finisterre Nalgene bottle for water which has a loop at the top and a Kleen Canteen insulated flask for coffee with the Ďhoopí on the lid. Usually i only take one of the other. The advice Iím looking for is how to place the bottle in the bag effectively to reduce the risk of spillage or leaking. I previously used a backpack which had side mesh pockets but i bought the cafe bag to compact my everyday carry.
Thanks for reading, any advice appreciated. Im looking to purchase any accessories on the tom bihn website that could help me find a solution. I want to keep the bottle / flask upright whilst walking / cycling and ideally not have to keep checking it method of securing it hasnít Ďloosenedí the lid/bottle top.
Regards
K

Dulcimergal
03-23-2017, 04:51 AM
Greetings and good morning! I found this in a bag hacks thread, and thought you might be able to get ideas from it. Also, you could use a yarn stuff sack to hold the bottle upright in your bag, as I saw suggested elsewhere in the forums.

https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/9001-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-3.html?highlight=bag+hacks

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/general-bag-discussion/10090d1422116529-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-image-jpg

There is also this one: https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8687/17345039572_f7c34179d2_c.jpg

Lizpdx
03-23-2017, 11:16 AM
I carry a Klean Kanteen with a loop top in my LCB, using a Nite-Ize S biner (size #3), with one side of the s-biner through and o-ring and the other side through the lid. Works great.

knowmadiq
03-24-2017, 02:55 AM
Thank you. I like all these ideas. Secure and external is safer for the MBP / Ipad, torch etc in case of the dreaded ‘java spillage’ that i had with a previous (non TB) messenger style bag.

bchaplin
03-24-2017, 04:54 AM
Also, if you are ever in the market for a new mug, my personal experience is that the Zojirushi one is more leakproof than the Klean Kanteen. At least in my hands, every so often I would not close the KK properly and find it spilling all over my bag, car seat, or hands... I've never had this problem since switching to the Zojirushi, and it's also easy to drink out of while on the go.

FoxValleyDame
03-24-2017, 06:22 AM
Also, if you are ever in the market for a new mug, my personal experience is that the Zojirushi one is more leakproof than the Klean Kanteen. At least in my hands, every so often I would not close the KK properly and find it spilling all over my bag, car seat, or hands... I've never had this problem since switching to the Zojirushi, and it's also easy to drink out of while on the go.

How long does the Zojirushi keep beverages hot/cold? I'm in the market for a new travel mug.

bchaplin
03-24-2017, 07:09 AM
How long does the Zojirushi keep beverages hot/cold? I'm in the market for a new travel mug.

To be honest, I've never really tested it for a long time, but my guess is quite a while, based on other reviews. I like the pop-open lid, and the fact that it can lock. I've tipped mine over when it was on my office desk (fortunately when the top was closed), and there was no spillage. Also, another coworker swears by hers. Here is the Amazon link (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HR0WZP4/ref=psdc_602608_t2_B005PO9T44).

rafoster
03-24-2017, 07:20 AM
I have one and it works great. Keeps beverages hot/cold for a long time.

tpnl
03-24-2017, 10:32 AM
How long does the Zojirushi keep beverages hot/cold? I'm in the market for a new travel mug.

From reviews, the Zojirushi is the top pick to keep beverages hot/cold the longest. The latest model is slightly better (you can tell the newer one because it has a slightly smaller diameter top - the older one it is the same diameter as the body). However, the newer one has a coating inside to make it more non-stick. I prefer the older style for this reason (I do not like non-stick finishes).

The Best Travel Mug (http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-travel-mug/)

I generally use Contigo and Zojirushi mugs as they are both leakproof designs. I like the 'Z' mugs because they are quite small yet carry the same volume of liquid. However, for me, the 'Z' mug are sometimes too efficient! - ie piping hot coffee even after 8-12 hrs. Note that I like my coffee more on the warm side and not the hot side. I bought my dad one of these mugs so he could have some hot water beside his bed at night. He would fill up boiling water at night and he still found it sometimes too hot by the morning. Solution - I let my coffee cool a bit before putting in the mug!

For the OP, here is one way someone keeps their mug from leaking while in the cafe bag:

Provide a Water Bottle Attachment to your Cafe Bag (https://forums.tombihn.com/questions-about-bags/5181-provide-water-bottle-attachment-your-cafe-bag.html)

https://forums.tombihn.com/attachments/questions-about-bags/2693d1347347349-provide-water-bottle-attachment-your-cafe-bag-dsc01902-jpg

A TB Yarn Stuff Sack may do the same thing as it has a connector sewn in as well.

Also, from @HonestMarshWiggle in the same Share you bag hacks thread that @Dulcimergal linked to earlier, some good pics of hanging a Water Bottle outside a Cafe Bag and how it was done:

External Water Bottle on Cafe Bag (https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/9001-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-5.html#post94748)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/NeitherExtreme/IMG_3463_zps7ts6jls1.jpg

Hope this helps
Cheers!

Apresski
03-28-2017, 02:36 AM
To be honest, I've never really tested it for a long time, but my guess is quite a while, based on other reviews. I like the pop-open lid, and the fact that it can lock. I've tipped mine over when it was on my office desk (fortunately when the top was closed), and there was no spillage. Also, another coworker swears by hers. Here is the Amazon link (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HR0WZP4/ref=psdc_602608_t2_B005PO9T44).

I really really like the locking function as well. Perhaps it's just me owning crappy thermos mugs before, but this is my first with a lockable lid and I can just toss it in my bag and not worry about it at. (I use mine as a water bottle most of the time so carry it around all the time).

PS - on a side note, these Zojirushi rice cookers are also wonderful. I've had one for years and only recently realized they made thermos mugs to

jujigatame
04-09-2017, 07:14 PM
https://forums.tombihn.com/general-bag-discussion/9001-share-your-bag-hacks-creative-uses-6.html#post99178

This was the setup I used on a small Cafe for external bottle carry.

squaredot
04-11-2017, 09:36 PM
I can chime in about Zojirushi insulated bottles and "mugs". Like tpnl mentions, they can indeed be too efficient - I sometimes resort to letting the liquid cool a bit after filling, before capping. This can allow it to be a more drinkable temperature faster. I've had hot coffee filled at 7am end up still being warm after sitting all day in a cold car during NY winters well below zero. (Obviously, temp hold times are affected by how often you open the container, how much air you let in, etc) I use mine less for cool beverages, but it's kept things cool when I wanted.

Zojirushi publishes specs on their claimed warming and cooling rates for various models. https://www.zojirushi.com/ourproducts/how_and_chart/comparison_pdf/Stainless%20Mug%20Comparison%20Chart.pdf

I have a SM-HKE48 and SM-SA48 (Insulated "mugs", according to Zoji.) (Same basic design, with the major difference being one is chemically treated and the other is polished stainless inside.) They almost completely disassemble for cleaning. I've been pleased with how relatively durable the paint/eternal coating is. Seals securely. The silicone top gasket that seals the spout makes the lid pop open. They also have a pretty positive physical locking switch.

I have only had issues with leakage if there's been buildup of film at sealing points, interfering with a good seal. If you're remotely non-lazy, this should be a non-issue. I regularly toss mine into a bag and don't think about it at all.

When I originally got one, I thought it seemed too small, and I didn't like the proportions. I've come to love how slim it is (relatively speaking). I find that it tucks into cup holders or pockets other bottles do not fit. I also like that they (and other folks) sell replacement parts: https://www.zojirushi.com/app/spare_parts/category/list You can buy some of the individual seal gaskets or "assemblies" (eg: lid+top gasket, spout + all related seals).

Highly recommended.