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bster
10-01-2017, 01:28 PM
hi!

anyone have experience using a compression sack to stuff a jacket? i use ec clean/dirty cubes for the rest of my clothes but am interested in getting a sack that gets super small for down coats/rain jackets such as these (https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/women-ultra-light-down-stretch-hooded-coat-178930.html?dwvar_178930_color=COL09&cgid=women-outerwear-and-blazers#start=9&cgid=women-outerwear-and-blazers or http://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-stretch-rainshadow-jacket/84800.html)... i rather not have to wear them through the airport! would be great to compress 2 jackets in 1 sack so they are easy to find in my luggage.

TIA! :)

Travelman505
10-01-2017, 04:43 PM
The Eagle Creek Large Compression Sac is what you are looking for: Pack-It? Compression Sac - Large - Smart Compression | Eagle Creek (http://shop.eaglecreek.com/packit-compression-sac-large/d/1064C3402?CategoryId=330)

BWeaves
10-02-2017, 06:09 AM
Eagle Creek has a variety of different types of compression bags. I like the Specter one that looks like a regular cube, but them zips down to compress. I use my large cube to compress sweaters down to nothing. But I think the sack that Travelman505 recommended might be better for your jacket.


This link has all the different compression options.

Pack-It Specter? Ultimate Compression Set - Eagle Creek (http://shop.eaglecreek.com/packit-specter-ultimate-compression-set/d/1640C5511?CategoryId=330)

tebnewyork
10-02-2017, 08:07 AM
Looks like Eagle Creek came out with a new set called Spectre Tech. Most eagle creek spectres didn't zip all the way around and it looks like the tech version does. Interesting.

Pack-It Specter Tech? Compression Cube Set S/M - Eagle Creek (http://shop.eaglecreek.com/packit-specter-tech-compression-cube-set-sm/d/1626C5412?CategoryId=214)

kathryn
10-02-2017, 09:04 AM
Looks like Eagle Creek came out with a new set called Spectre Tech. Most eagle creek spectres didn't zip all the way around and it looks like the tech version does. Interesting.

Pack-It Specter Tech? Compression Cube Set S/M - Eagle Creek (http://shop.eaglecreek.com/packit-specter-tech-compression-cube-set-sm/d/1626C5412?CategoryId=214)

Thanks for the link/heads up! I was about to recommend the Lewis-n-Clark (https://www.amazon.com/Lewis-Clark-Electrolight-Packing-2-Pack/dp/B00UFOE6J2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506959899&sr=8-1&keywords=lewis+n+clark+packing+cube) or REI (https://www.rei.com/product/866088/rei-co-op-expandable-packing-cube-set) compression cubes, because of the fact that they zip fully open. I do like the EC Spectre ones I have, but that was always a complaint I had.

Alternately, a regular tube-style stuff sack is my choice for my down jacket (which is from Uniqlo and came with its own that is roughly the size of a size 2 TB stuff sack).

ETA: both the links in the OP go to jackets the include a stuff sack or else fold into their own pocket, so for those specific items, this discussion is probably superfluous. :)

BWeaves
10-02-2017, 09:09 AM
RE: The new Specter Tech cubes from Eagle Creek:

Be careful what you wish for.

I have the original EC Specter cubes that don't zip all the way around, and I thought it bugged me. So I just ordered a few of the Specter Tech cubes that do zip all the way around. I sent them right back. I preferred the design of the original cubes better after all.

Because the cubes are so floppy, when the lid opens all the way up, there is absolutely no structure to the packing cube, and I found it very difficult to pack the Tech cubes during a test pack. The partial zip of the original Specter cubes helps keep the shape of the cube while I packed it.

Also, the Specter Tech have 2 zipper pulls, which is frankly overkill for a packing cube. It adds a little weight when I really only need one zipper pull. I know the weight is tiny, but with several packing cubes, it could be the straw that breaks my camel's back, if you know what I mean.

The double zipper pulls on the TB packing cubes bug me for the same reason. Unless I need a locking zipper, or have a large long zipper, I don't need two zipper pulls.

P.S. The original Specter cubes are silnylon, which is silky and slippery. The Specter Tech cubes look like miniature Halcyon and feel very papery, like the TB Aether fabric only much, much thinner. It almost feels like really tough tissue paper. Again, I preferred the original Specter fabric.

P.P.S. What I don't like, you may love. But I have a feeling the original versions are being phased out.

tebnewyork
10-02-2017, 09:15 AM
RE: The new Specter Tech cubes from Eagle Creek:

Be careful what you wish for.

I have the original EC Specter cubes that don't zip all the way around, and I thought it bugged me. So I just ordered a few of the Specter Tech cubes that do zip all the way around. I sent them right back.

Because the cubes are so floppy, when the lip opens all the way up, there is absolutely no structure to the packing cube, and I found that very difficult to pack during a test pack. The partial zip of the original Specter cubes helps keep the shape of the cube while I packed it.



Oh excellent to know. I do like my original compression one where it zips around twice. I'm awash in packing cubes these days. I use a TB one most of the time in the S25 but different bags I pack in different ways.

bster
10-02-2017, 09:40 AM
The Eagle Creek Large Compression Sac is what you are looking for: Pack-It? Compression Sac - Large - Smart Compression | Eagle Creek (http://shop.eaglecreek.com/packit-compression-sac-large/d/1064C3402?CategoryId=330)

thanks! are these easy to recompress on the go? also when did you buy yours? i was reading some reviews that thye may have recently changed thme up a bit and the air leaks back in :(

bster
10-02-2017, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the link/heads up! I was about to recommend the Lewis-n-Clark (https://www.amazon.com/Lewis-Clark-Electrolight-Packing-2-Pack/dp/B00UFOE6J2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506959899&sr=8-1&keywords=lewis+n+clark+packing+cube) or REI (https://www.rei.com/product/866088/rei-co-op-expandable-packing-cube-set) compression cubes, because of the fact that they zip fully open. I do like the EC Spectre ones I have, but that was always a complaint I had.

Alternately, a regular tube-style stuff sack is my choice for my down jacket (which is from Uniqlo and came with its own that is roughly the size of a size 2 TB stuff sack).

ETA: both the links in the OP go to jackets the include a stuff sack or else fold into their own pocket, so for those specific items, this discussion is probably superfluous. :)

was hoping to squish even smaller..... lol :p thought maybe an actual compression bag would help me get 2 in 1 similar size bag, ect...so i cna keep items together and save more space... wishful thinking?

bster
10-02-2017, 09:51 AM
Eagle Creek has a variety of different types of compression bags. I like the Specter one that looks like a regular cube, but them zips down to compress. I use my large cube to compress sweaters down to nothing. But I think the sack that Travelman505 recommended might be better for your jacket.


This link has all the different compression options.

Pack-It Specter? Ultimate Compression Set - Eagle Creek (http://shop.eaglecreek.com/packit-specter-ultimate-compression-set/d/1640C5511?CategoryId=330)

do you find the cubes compress flat all the way across and not just the edges? that was my main concern at first when looking at those... and trying to figure out sizes... i was hoping to compress into medium cube at largest? the down jackets im packing are ultra light types so squish down easily in even a regular sack... i do like cubes though, would fit perfectly on top of my current cube filing system in my a30 if the cubed compressed flat. otherwise i was thinking of compressing into a sack and putting in an end pocket. hmm..

kathryn
10-02-2017, 09:57 AM
was hoping to squish even smaller..... lol :p thought maybe an actual compression bag would help me get 2 in 1 similar size bag, ect...so i cna keep items together and save more space... wishful thinking?

So, I think that's a packing conundrum that boils down to a personal choice. Especially for the rain jacket, I wouldn't add the weight of another stuff sack or compression bag, if it already folds into its own pocket. That's gonna get you a pretty small, flat package which I think would be easy enough to spot in a bag. For the down coat, you could almost certainly get it into a smaller stuff sack than the one it comes with.

If you decide that you definitely do want them both in the same bag/cube/sack, then my choice would be to fold the raincoat into it's own pocket, fold up the down jacket to similar dimensions, and put them both into a compression packing cube like the Specter ones that matches those linear dimensions as closely as possible. (Editing to add that they don't compress evenly across the whole bag. They are definitely thinner along the edges, but the middle is still compressed.)

Another option would be to "nest" them (as if you were wearing them as layers), and then ranger roll (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zvBRgyCGqE) the whole package. The down will compress down to almost nothing, and the raincoat will hold the whole thing tightly together.

Again, a personal choice, but I would definitely not use the plastic bag style compression bags. They are noisy to use, prone to failure, and any one that's durable is going to be heavier than I want to carry.

BWeaves
10-02-2017, 10:39 AM
do you find the cubes compress flat all the way across and not just the edges? that was my main concern at first when looking at those... and trying to figure out sizes... i was hoping to compress into medium cube at largest? the down jackets im packing are ultra light types so squish down easily in even a regular sack... i do like cubes though, would fit perfectly on top of my current cube filing system in my a30 if the cubed compressed flat. otherwise i was thinking of compressing into a sack and putting in an end pocket. hmm..

I have the 2 sizes of the Eagle Creek Specter compression cubes, which have the regular zip, and then the second compression zip. Since I'm folding sweaters to the exact dimensions of the cube and stacking them, when I do the compression zip, the package is fairly flat. Yes, it is a bit smaller at the edges because that's where the zipper is pulling everything together, but it's a very flat, rectangular package.

The larger size of compression cube fits perfectly in the bottom of my D36 (medium road duffle). The smaller size fits perfectly in the end compartments with room to spare.

Keep in mind, I only pack really squishable items in the compression cubes. Wool sweaters are perfect. A rain jacket has no squish to it. It's dense. I find anything I have that is nylon is a waste to pack in compression cube, because it just won't get any smaller than it is already folded. Packing it with a squishable item like a down jacket is fine.

Travelman505
10-02-2017, 12:58 PM
I bought mine about six months ago and have not experienced the air leak problem that you described.

bster
10-02-2017, 08:40 PM
Thanks everyone for your comments!

Also, I just realized that I posted this in the wrong category... so please feel free to move my thread as needed! Thanks!!