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maverick
04-29-2009, 11:30 AM
tom has designed some very cool bags over the years. a lot of them are available today, but some are not. occasionally, we see bags from the past show up on the forum.

it would be wonderful to have an online museum featuring all of the bags that tom has designed over the years!

what do you think?

oh, i came across this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/2816197288_12ce8c49b8.jpg

the writer says (http://www.baus.net/tom-bihn) he has had this daypack for 12 years. what is it called?

maverick
04-29-2009, 11:36 AM
found this one here (http://laughingmeme.org/2003/11/13/my-decade-with-tom-bihn/):

http://laughingmeme.org/img/SuperMusette.GIF

as of 2003, he had had that bag for 8 years.

maverick
04-30-2009, 10:23 AM
this black bag daypack is one that, per darcy (http://forums.tombihn.com/showthread.php?p=11818), tom himself sewed from start to finish.

it appeared for sale on ebay in january, 2009.

backpack
04-30-2009, 10:26 AM
Thanks for the pictures and the comments, Maverick! :)

Very nice indeed!

maverick
04-30-2009, 11:42 AM
circa 2003, if i'm not mistaken.

maverick
04-30-2009, 11:48 AM
i had one of these...

maverick
04-30-2009, 11:51 AM
i had a couple of these. my cousin is using a crimson monolith for his 17" macbook pro that i had purchased for my 17" powerbook probably 5 years ago.

maverick
04-30-2009, 11:59 AM
darcy started a discussion and poll (http://forums.tombihn.com/showthread.php?t=1151) some time back about reintroducing / redesigning the Black Bag LGD, circa 1995:

http://www.tombihn.com/blogimages/lgd1.jpg

http://www.tombihn.com/blogimages/lgd2.jpg

http://www.tombihn.com/blogimages/lgd3.jpg

maverick
04-30-2009, 12:05 PM
from the customer pictures (http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/CTGY/CP) page:

http://www.tombihn.com/customerpictures/chcp.jpg

timothy
04-30-2009, 12:42 PM
The Super Musette is cool! I'd rather that the TB crew re-made that than the Black Bag, even though the Black Bag has a great name ;)

timothy

maverick
04-30-2009, 01:09 PM
if i understand correctly, black bag was actually the name of tom's company before he started operating under his own name.


The Super Musette is cool! I'd rather that the TB crew re-made that than the Black Bag, even though the Black Bag has a great name ;)

timothy

maverick
04-30-2009, 01:33 PM
Clockwise from top: The Croissant, The Limpet, The Modern Times Briefcase, an unnamed top-loader daypack, The Little Thing, and The Twisted Limpet.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1323/576992458_8a1d3ab923.jpg?v=0

maverick
04-30-2009, 01:35 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/395925433_0c4c1046d3.jpg?v=0

timothy
04-30-2009, 02:04 PM
"if i understand correctly, black bag was actually the name of tom's company before he started operating under his own name."

Maverick -- you're right, and I even knew that, but let it slip from my brain. The LGD is the bag I was looking at when I said that ;) Now, I think that "Black Bag" *would* be a good name for a bag, though, so perhaps it could one day come full circle, and Tom Bihn, maker of Tom Bihn bags and formerly principal of Black Bag, could make a black Tom Bihn Black Bag.

timothy

maverick
04-30-2009, 07:36 PM
Now, I think that "Black Bag" *would* be a good name for a bag, though, so perhaps it could one day come full circle, and Tom Bihn, maker of Tom Bihn bags and formerly principal of Black Bag, could make a black Tom Bihn Black Bag.

timothy

or a bag called the tom bihn black bag that is offered in all sorts of colors except black >:-)

maverick
05-27-2009, 08:28 AM
hi folks,

i came across this tom bihn messenger bag (http://cgi.ebay.com/Tom-Bihn-Messenger-Bag_W0QQitemZ280350291677QQihZ018QQcategoryZ163540 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) on ebay.

the seller says that it is a "medium" size, but the 12" x 13" dimensions sound like it would be about the size of a large cafe bag (http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/200/TB0203). the differences is that the large cafe bag has organizer pockets that this messenger bag does not have.

tom, darcy,

do you know about when this bag may have been made?

thanks!

Tom Bihn
05-29-2009, 01:15 PM
The proportions make it look like a medium Cafe to me; probably made in the late 90's judging from the label.

FYI, I changed the name of the company to "Black Bag" after getting tired of hearing my name everywhere (everywhere = everywhere in Santa Cruz, California). Sales dropped: people didn't feel like Black Bag meant anything. So I changed back to Tom Bihn. I figured if I got tired of the notoriety again I'd just change my name.
I'd probably change it to Eddie Bauer :)

moriond
05-29-2009, 01:37 PM
Hi Tom,


FYI, I changed the name of the company to "Black Bag" after getting tired of hearing my name everywhere (everywhere = everywhere in Santa Cruz, California). Sales dropped: people didn't feel like Black Bag meant anything. So I changed back to Tom Bihn. I figured if I got tired of the notoriety again I'd just change my name.
I'd probably change it to Eddie Bauer :)
Yes, the "everywhere = everywhere in Santa Cruz, California" does seem to be true. Just a couple of months ago someone I know noted "You're carrying a Tom Bihn bag -- I was just browsing their web site today. I used to see their bags all the time when I was a student in Santa Cruz."

Cheers,

moriond

P.S. You have name brand recognition, and "Tom" sounds much more euphonious than "Eddie" (apologies in advance to any forum readers named Eddie.)

maverick
05-29-2009, 02:24 PM
The proportions make it look like a medium Cafe to me; probably made in the late 90's judging from the label.

FYI, I changed the name of the company to "Black Bag" after getting tired of hearing my name everywhere (everywhere = everywhere in Santa Cruz, California). Sales dropped: people didn't feel like Black Bag meant anything. So I changed back to Tom Bihn. I figured if I got tired of the notoriety again I'd just change my name.
I'd probably change it to Eddie Bauer :)

that looks really nice for a 10 year old bag!

i'm glad you tried changing the company name to "Black Bag" rather than changing your name to "Black Bag!"

:)

katiya
06-09-2009, 10:11 PM
It was very interesting to see this thread since I just joined this site! I love learning about the history of companies and seeing how product has evolved over time.

I'm thinking it was better to discover TB now because with that big logo on that messenger bag above that would have pretty much turned me off to trying the product. I very rarely advertise for any company. I'm kind of stuck with my shoe advertising but my pants or skirts cover up the logo "S" on the shoe. Darned comfortable shoes I may add which is important for my overall general health.

So I see with the messenger/cafe bags the clasp is to the side, I'm curious as to why that is? I must be missing something because pretty much everyone else centers the closing mechanism. I'd have to say I prefer it that way but am going to give a cafe bag a go of it. I pretty much carry my bags across my shoulder and to the front of me so I am not worried about someone reaching into my bag. Also with the clasp to the side it seems slight curling of the one side of the bag would become evident over time. It looks like the cafe bags were designed to specifically cut down on that issue but I suppose experience is the best judge of that. I'm the type who thinks things through before purchasing so I can manage my needs efficiently though.

I should of become an efficiency expert :)

Darcy
06-10-2009, 10:57 AM
So I see with the messenger/cafe bags the clasp is to the side, I'm curious as to why that is? I must be missing something because pretty much everyone else centers the closing mechanism. I'd have to say I prefer it that way but am going to give a cafe bag a go of it. I pretty much carry my bags across my shoulder and to the front of me so I am not worried about someone reaching into my bag. Also with the clasp to the side it seems slight curling of the one side of the bag would become evident over time. It looks like the cafe bags were designed to specifically cut down on that issue but I suppose experience is the best judge of that. I'm the type who thinks things through before purchasing so I can manage my needs efficiently though.

The off-center buckle is part of the design of the bag - personally, I love the lines it creates. It doesn't cause curling of the flap - not that we've ever seen in 10+ years.

Foggy Morn
06-10-2009, 03:15 PM
My TB bag from the early 90s has the buckle off to the side like that. In fact, my bag looks a lot like the one pictured (DH has a green one that's the same design) though I can't tell scale all that well. Mine's a small, I think.

Even that early on, the bag is lined in a light color to make it easy to locate things in the bag - in my case a pale gray. The interior pockets are a little different than my recent medium café bag, but there's much that's the same. Great quality, of course.

katiya
06-13-2009, 08:40 AM
Thanks for the reply Darcy and maverick let me know about the store being open this upcoming Tuesday from 3-6pm. I'll be there to make my decisions then on the cafe bags, side effects and a grocery bag or two.

eWalker
06-07-2014, 09:18 AM
It was very interesting to see this thread since I just joined this site! I love learning about the history of companies and seeing how product has evolved over time.

I agree!

I am dedicating a great deal of time browsing the old Forumīs posts and there is one thing I always miss and would love to see, a timeline of Tom Bihnīs bags and milestones (new materials adoption, for example)!

adalangdon
02-13-2015, 06:35 AM
Thought I'd resurrect this thread to share a couple of things I picked up recently.

The LCB's 'Black Bag' predecessor. Sides are black, with blue tape and a Steel interior of 500D. (Colour is more or less accurate on an iphone, just FYI)

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MCB. I did a bit of research on the Wayback Machine and it seems that this is the Black/Grid colourway. The Grid fabric looks like dyneema, but when I feel the back of the fabric, it seems like Cordura. The grid lines are also pale yellow-- would appreciate any info on whether this is just an age thing, or if it was always like that.

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Obligatory pic of cat, who just has to sit on all my freshly laundered stuff. At least he matches this one 8-)
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Darcy
02-13-2015, 08:34 AM
MCB. I did a bit of research on the Wayback Machine and it seems that this is the Black/Grid colourway. The Grid fabric looks like dyneema, but when I feel the back of the fabric, it seems like Cordura. The grid lines are also pale yellow-- would appreciate any info on whether this is just an age thing, or if it was always like that.
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Nice! That Grid fabric is 500d Cordura with a Kevlar ripstop. We used it briefly in the very early part of the century.

moriond
02-13-2015, 01:14 PM
Nice! That Grid fabric is 500d Cordura with a Kevlar ripstop. We used it briefly in the very early part of the century.

Darcy, I remember seeing old early color swatch product links with fabric patterns like this. I'm not sure all of those still work from the Internet Archive pages. Certainly, some of the product display modes (rotating bag pictures by 360 degrees) no longer work, and some of the old image locations on the web product pages have clearly been moved, so my old links won't work.

To address @adalangdon's question, I recall that the grid appeared white in the swatch samples on the product pages. was this an off-white?

moriond

Ilkyway
02-13-2015, 01:29 PM
adalangdon how very cool is this! Not only do you have bag desings and materials that are no longer around but you have so very cool old lable-desings too. I wonder how many different Tom Bihn Lables you have? Would you try and take a picture with one of each in it?

How do the old desings carry? I like the two-colord Cafe Bag predesessor.

Ilkyway

dorayme
02-13-2015, 02:54 PM
I'm glad a forum member got the LCB, I was bidding on it for my 10 year old. I don't have any black bag labeled products, but desire to have one. I always think of Tom when I see black bag because of that name. I love he history behind why he chose that branding name for a time.

adalangdon
02-13-2015, 05:45 PM
Darcy, I remember seeing old early color swatch product links with fabric patterns like this. I'm not sure all of those still work from the Internet Archive pages. Certainly, some of the product display modes (rotating bag pictures by 360 degrees) no longer work, and some of the old image locations on the web product pages have clearly been moved, so my old links won't work.

To address @adalangdon's question, I recall that the grid appeared white in the swatch samples on the product pages. was this an off-white?

moriond

No, it's actually a pale yellow. Not even cream. It's quite nice-- if I didn't have it in my head that it looked like dyneema, I would think it was supposed to be that way, heh.

adalangdon
02-13-2015, 05:58 PM
adalangdon how very cool is this! Not only do you have bag desings and materials that are no longer around but you have so very cool old lable-desings too. I wonder how many different Tom Bihn Lables you have? Would you try and take a picture with one of each in it?


Hmm, not that many, actually! A few blue labels, one of which has an inside tag with the Port Angeles address and the treasonous tag-line (love it). I guess this was slightly before they moved to Seattle. The O rings on that one are different; more like D-rings than O-rings. Then there are these two that I just posted. The rest are the grey 'Portable Culture' ones and the current 'Made in USA' ones.

I haven't taken the LCB out yet. I can say that the strap material is totally different (a bit thinner, I think), and the interior has a funny wall pocket on one side where the black cordura is. No pen pockets, but I think I will use the funny wall pocket for for my 2 pens and flashlight. There is also a very handy divider pocket on the back wall which I imagine would be great for stashing papers while travelling. I'll be sure to report back on this one later :-)

BTW, one thing I've found very amusing about these older bags is the change in pocket sizes. The MCB has two massive wall pockets, obviously meant for PDAs. Then they shrunk when PDAs died and our phones got smaller. (I was in our equivalent of high school when Palm was big; one of my classmates wrote Palm software as a hobby.) Maybe this means they'll be getting bigger again in the future...

=totally unrelated note=

This is funny... I need to wait 3s before 'liking' another post.

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