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maverick
05-09-2009, 05:59 PM
hi folks,

we got a break from the rain and spent most of the day outside today. amongst our activities was an outing to the nation's capital (http://www.washington.org/). while we didn't run into president (http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/President_Obama/) or mrs. obama (http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/michelle_obama/), we did get some fun shots with our navy / cayenne medium cafe bag (http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/200/TB0202) that we wanted to share with you. we hope you will enjoy them!

maverick
05-09-2009, 06:01 PM
in front of the capitol building (http://www.nps.gov/history/nR/travel/wash/dc76.htm).

maverick
05-09-2009, 06:06 PM
the medium cafe bag, along with every other bag that comes out of the tom bihn factory is an unparalleled work of modern art.

while my son didn't come out of the tom bihn factory, he too is an unparalleled work of modern art.

so we decided to make some pictures of our medium cafe bag alongside some of the remarkable pieces of art at the hirshhorn museum and sculpture garden (http://hirshhorn.si.edu/).

maverick
05-09-2009, 06:09 PM
we really enjoyed the art at the hirshhorn. but we also wanted to take some time to connect with nature.

so we made our way over to the enid a. haupt garden (http://www.gardens.si.edu/horticulture/gardens/Haupt/hpt_home.htm) behind the smithsonian castle (http://www.si.edu/visit/infocenter/sicastle.htm).

maverick
05-09-2009, 06:17 PM
last one - with the washington monument (http://www.nps.gov/wamo/), smithsonian castle (http://www.si.edu/visit/infocenter/sicastle.htm) and the carousel on the national mall (http://nca-usa.org/index.html) in the background.

backpack
05-09-2009, 10:22 PM
Thank You for sharing maverick.

It is indeed a treat :)

Beautiful city, beautiful pictures and most important beautiful son :)

keb
05-11-2009, 01:58 PM
so maverick.... for a travelog day with a force of nature, what's in the bag? I carry a small backpack (Gregory Reactor) for days like that but it isn't always the right setup, and certainly would not fit my wife's D80. So I usually end up carrying a camera bag with the D80 and camcorder, then the backpack too, with my kids' point and shoots on my belt and the snacks and emergency asthma meds in the backpack. (yes I am quite the sight when fully loaded....)

maverick
05-11-2009, 02:08 PM
i love shooting with my nikon d700, but i often leave that at home and bring my leica d-lux 4. that's what we've done the last two saturdays.

we had come home from my son's soccer class to eat lunch and then headed out to dc. so i didn't have very much to carry. we had a couple of water bottles, some crackers and cookies, my clear organizer wallet (http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/ACC/TB0319MIW), iphone, and car keys. i also had a victorinox multitool and flashlight that i usually leave in my bag. it was a pretty light outing.

i've done the outings with the 24-70mm f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8 lenses each on their own body. but then i had a kid. and the kid grew and learned to run really fast... :)


so maverick.... for a travelog day with a force of nature, what's in the bag? I carry a small backpack (Gregory Reactor) for days like that but it isn't always the right setup, and certainly would not fit my wife's D80. So I usually end up carrying a camera bag with the D80 and camcorder, then the backpack too, with my kids' point and shoots on my belt and the snacks and emergency asthma meds in the backpack. (yes I am quite the sight when fully loaded....)

keb
05-11-2009, 02:43 PM
i've done the outings with the 24-70mm f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8 lenses each on their own body. but then i had a kid. and the kid grew and learned to run really fast... :)[/QUOTE]

two full size DSLRs in the bag with lenses attached? wow. how were they protected? i guess it would easily fit one (in a TB camera insert, cough) with the 18-135 lens and a camcorder then. not sure i would want to mix in water bottles with those but snacks/meds would work for sure... very interesting.

(btw that leica looks sweet. for the $ i guess it better be!!! i know the small panasonics these days mostly have the leica lenses...)

maverick
05-11-2009, 03:06 PM
i have used a shoulder bag from tenba that would hold two bodies, the 24-70mm f/2.8, the 70-200mm f/2.8, and a flash and battery pack for the flash, along with compact flash cards, battery chargers, cleaning cloth, spray and other accessories.

it provided protection for the equipment, but what i didn't like about it was that it was very bulky.

i've also used a suitcase from lowepro that would hold this and more when i was a wedding photographer.

once i got to the event location, the bodies and lenses would come together and i would carry a body and lens on each shoulder, leaving the bag in the space provided for me or in my car if we were going to be outdoors.

i believe all of the panasonic digital cameras use leica lenses. the panasonic lx3 and leica d-lux 4 have the same 24-60m f/2.0-2.8 lens, and the design of he bodies is very similar. there is a difference in the software in the two. i've been pleased with what the leica can do.



two full size DSLRs in the bag with lenses attached? wow. how were they protected? i guess it would easily fit one (in a TB camera insert, cough) with the 18-135 lens and a camcorder then. not sure i would want to mix in water bottles with those but snacks/meds would work for sure... very interesting.

(btw that leica looks sweet. for the $ i guess it better be!!! i know the small panasonics these days mostly have the leica lenses...)

keb
05-11-2009, 03:23 PM
I thought all that fit in the medium cafe bag! that would have been amazing. those are some serious lenses.

I have a small all-weather Lowepro that I use for the D80 but it doesn't quite fit with the camcorder. I find the larger camera bags are a bit unwieldy and make for such obvious targets when traveling. I would love to be able to put the D80 with the 18-135, my new canon hf11, an extra battery for each, an SD card or two, and the SB28 speedlight in a bag like the cafe bag instead of a camera shoulder bag or backpack, and still have room for my kids' panasonic p&s when necessary, and throw in some snacks, tissues, meds, bandaids. i get so tired of carrying two bags around and always worrying that someone is going to try to snag the camera bag while it is protruding from my side, and having to slide it around or wait for my wife to unzip it to take out the camera when she wants it... of course, the impact protection from a dedicated bag probably outweighs the inconvenience...


i have used a shoulder bag from tenba that would hold two bodies, the 24-70mm f/2.8, the 70-200mm f/2.8, and a flash and battery pack for the flash, along with compact flash cards, battery chargers, cleaning cloth, spray and other accessories.

it provided protection for the equipment, but what i didn't like about it was that it was very bulky.

i've also used a suitcase from lowepro that would hold this and more when i was a wedding photographer.

once i got to the event location, the bodies and lenses would come together and i would carry a body and lens on each shoulder, leaving the bag in the space provided for me or in my car if we were going to be outdoors.

i believe all of the panasonic digital cameras use leica lenses. the panasonic lx3 has the same lens that the leica d-lux 4 has, and the design of he bodies is very similar. there is a difference in the software in the two. i've been pleased with what it can do.

maverick
05-11-2009, 03:57 PM
hi keb,

if you'd like to use a messenger style bag rather than a backpack, i think you could hold what you are describing very nicely in the ego.

if i got my information (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/576006-REG/Canon_3079B001_VIXIA_HF11_AVCHD_Dual.html#specific ations) right, the dimensions on your video camera are 2.9 x 2.5 x 5.1".

my sony hvr-a1u (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/384527-REG/Sony_HVRA1U_HVRA1U_HDV_Camcorder.html#specificatio ns) is 2.9 x 4.1 x 7.6". i believe that's without the audio inputs.

if i'm not mistaken, your 18-135mm (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/449087-GREY/Nikon_2162_18_135mm_f_3_5_5_6_ED_IF_AF_S.html#spec ifications) lens is 3.4" long and has a diameter of 2.9".

my 50mm f/1.4G (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585343-USA/Nikon_2180_AF_S_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4G.html#includes) lens is 2.1" long and has a diameter of 2.9" and has the HB-47 lens hood (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585347-REG/Nikon_4340_HB_47_Bayonet_Lens_Hood.html) that probably add about 1" to the length. so it won't be exact, but we'll get close.

i don't know if the camera insert will fit inside the ego, but let me get take some shots of the d700 body, the 50mm f/1.4G lens with the hood attached, and the sony hvr-z1u video camera. and we can see how much space there is for everything else.



I thought all that fit in the medium cafe bag! that would have been amazing. those are some serious lenses.

I have a small all-weather Lowepro that I use for the D80 but it doesn't quite fit with the camcorder. I find the larger camera bags are a bit unwieldy and make for such obvious targets when traveling. I would love to be able to put the D80 with the 18-135, my new canon hf11, an extra battery for each, an SD card or two, and the SB28 speedlight in a bag like the cafe bag instead of a camera shoulder bag or backpack, and still have room for my kids' panasonic p&s when necessary, and throw in some snacks, tissues, meds, bandaids. i get so tired of carrying two bags around and always worrying that someone is going to try to snag the camera bag while it is protruding from my side, and having to slide it around or wait for my wife to unzip it to take out the camera when she wants it... of course, the impact protection from a dedicated bag probably outweighs the inconvenience...

Shiva
05-11-2009, 05:58 PM
Maverick: wonderful pictures...I am in DC too!!!
one day we will run into each other over TB!
btw: would you be able to do one of your wonderful videos on the Smart Alec?
I like the Smart Alec--precisely cos it is a smart alec and seems will be the perfect backpack for mass transit and India--no nimble fingers can reach it easily! I like the Ruck's Sac but not sure if that will be enough for running around.....

maverick
05-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Maverick: wonderful pictures...I am in DC too!!!
one day we will run into each other over TB!
btw: would you be able to do one of your wonderful videos on the Smart Alec?
I like the Smart Alec--precisely cos it is a smart alec and seems will be the perfect backpack for mass transit and India--no nimble fingers can reach it easily! I like the Ruck's Sac but not sure if that will be enough for running around.....

hey shiva,

wow - small world!

i do have plans to do a video review of the smart alec backpack soon. thanks for being patient!

keb
05-12-2009, 06:54 AM
hi keb,

if you'd like to use a messenger style bag rather than a backpack, i think you could hold what you are describing very nicely in the ego.



I've always been a little afraid of getting a big Ego... ;)

maverick
05-12-2009, 06:58 AM
I've always been a little afraid of getting a big Ego... ;)

i wonder sometimes how mine fits through the door!

keb
05-12-2009, 11:08 AM
You know what would probably be perfect for what I am talking about? A bag a little smaller than the ID, which seems like it might be a little large for what I would want to carry around on the weekends when I carry around my Empire Builder and which I doubt my wife would want to carry when I am not around, and larger than the Imago, which might fit the amateur photo/video stuff but prob not with much else. It would be configured like the Ego with the ability to put a water bottle on each end and front pockets to keep the cookie crumbs off the stuff in the main compartment, which would accommodate inserts to protect the $$$ stuff. So essentially an Ego in the 17-18 liter volume range-- maybe.... the Alter Ego...

maverick
05-12-2009, 11:26 AM
You know what would probably be perfect for what I am talking about? A bag a little smaller than the ID, which seems like it might be a little large for what I would want to carry around on the weekends when I carry around my Empire Builder and which I doubt my wife would want to carry when I am not around, and larger than the Imago, which might fit the amateur photo/video stuff but prob not with much else. It would be configured like the Ego with the ability to put a water bottle on each end and front pockets to keep the cookie crumbs off the stuff in the main compartment, which would accommodate inserts to protect the $$$ stuff. So essentially an Ego in the 17-18 liter volume range-- maybe.... the Alter Ego...

so if i understand correctly, the alter ego would be designed like the ego, and be sized between the id and imago?

the imago's dimensions are 14.5" x 12.25" x 3.5."

the id's dimensions are 15.75 x 12 x 5.5."

the ego's dimensions are 15.3" x 13.3" x 6.3".

the super ego's dimensions are 17" x 14.5" x 6.75."

what i really like about the ego is the fact that its depth (is that what you would call it? - i'm talking about the 6.3"). this allows you to pack a lot of stuff into the ego.

since the super ego is bigger in that dimension - 6.75", i would like to see the alter ego not reduce too much in that dimension. i understand that the bag size needs to be proportionate, but making the alter ego sized between the id and image shouldn't take away too much in this dimension.

i understand the design of the ego and super ego is different than the imago and id.

let me see if i can do my math here. the alter ego could be 14.75" x 12.8" x 6" - multiplied the dimensions of the ego by 0.965 and rounded.

the design of the ego is different than the id, but the dimensions of the alter ego and id would not be too different.

tom, what do you think?

keb
05-12-2009, 12:13 PM
Making it unisex in size would be important. It shouldn't be large enough that I get in trouble if I tell my wife to bring it somewhere because I forgot it. I think the top of the main compartment would also have to have some kind of closure apparatus under the flap so that if it is being used as a photo/video bag nothing will fall out if the front is unclasped (I had an old Nikon camera bag that was like that and it was not good...) but that maybe could be folded in on itself and secured to use it as a true messenger bag. Having the ability to carry a water bottle on each end would be huge. You might even try to figure out a way to have straps to allow a horizontal bottle or umbrella on top in front of the handle...

keb
05-12-2009, 12:21 PM
Actually the Side Effect looks like a fantastic solution for extra batteries and memory cards and a cable or two. I can see it in one end of the main compartment, o-ring clipped to keep it from flopping around...

keb
05-12-2009, 07:00 PM
maverick-- somehow i missed your ruck's sack camera video. that was pretty cool. the cafe bags would not hold the larger DSLRs because of the depth problem, I see, and even if they did you would have the problem of having to pile the other stuff on top of your camera equipment. I should be getting the Domke lens wrap (15") and the zing medium pouch tomorrow, so by tomorrow night I should have some idea how the canon hf11 fits in the zing pouch. I think it will be perfect and allows for vertical placement within what ever bag I use, which means it only requires the space of a telephoto lens. as for your impressive lens collection, i hear the big nikon telezooms with the VR built in are unbelievable...

keb
05-12-2009, 09:59 PM
ok, just saw the large cafe camera equipment video... i apologize for being a little behind the times.... still like the alter ego concept as a streamlined one-bag overloaded dad solution....