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LauraA
04-20-2012, 10:23 AM
My beautiful Iberian Synapse arrived, and (even though I had been warned) I was shocked at how small it looked. I decided to try "practice packing" for my trip in May. I'm going to Seattle and NYC, and the whole trip is 2 and a half weeks. Here's what I packed:

MEDIUM TRI-STAR PACKING CUBE

2 pair thin pants

1 set thin long underwear or thin pj’s

3 panties, 1 bra, 2 pr socks

4 tee shirts/tank tops

2 button shirts( for this trip, I packed light sweater instead of two button shirts)

SMALL CLEAR CUBE FOR LIQUIDS

hair gel, face cleanser and cream, eye drops, nose spray, small tube Aquaphor, toothpaste

SMALL TOILETRY KIT

mineral make up, toothbrush, floss, deo stick, bar shampoo, small mirror, vitamins

EXTRAS

ipad/iphone charger, small hair brush, green and herbal tea bags, flax seed packets, spork, iPad, one pair of light shoes, loaded small purse containing wallet, credit cards, license, lipstick, chapstick, advil, ear plugs, reading glasses, sun glasses, iPhone

Now, if you are shocked, keep in mind that I wear size XL clothes, that I fit in my iPad, and that I fit in a small purse. I also packed one more tee shirt than I had originally planed, and one more pair of underpants. I can now go 4 days without doing laundry - longer if I wash out undies! I'm trying to post pictures. Stay tuned! Take care, LauraA

LauraA
04-20-2012, 10:41 AM
Wow, Katy, thanks so much for your help posting the pictures! I can pack a bag, but can't post a picture!! The last picture is the bag fully packed, and shows how much room was left at the top. I ended up putting my purse in there. I could also have added an extra sweater. I just can't believe that the iPad and the shoes fit in there! On the plane I wear thicker pants, walking shoes, tee shirt and light jacket, my travel scarf, and I carry a slightly heavier jacket. Oh, and the bag weighs less that 12 pounds! Take care, LauraA

Katy
04-20-2012, 11:01 AM
I'm shocked at how much you were able to fit in there! The Packing Cube is a great idea!!!

WhiteStar
04-20-2012, 11:04 AM
The Iberian Synapse is beautiful! I just love the Dyneema fabric.

nukediver
04-20-2012, 11:12 AM
Wow! I knew my Synapse had magical I-can-stuff-a-lot-of-things-in-here goodness, but I never thought about using it for travel (other than as a "personal item"). I'm going to visit my sister this weekend, and am now going to only take my Synapse. Thanks for the inspiration (and photos)!

Lani
04-20-2012, 12:54 PM
I decided to try "practice packing" for my trip in May. I'm going to Seattle and NYC, and the whole trip is 2 and a half weeks.

Wow! Yet another person who managed to pack everything for their trip into a Synapse. I'm really impressed.

... and kind of inspired!

I think I might go home and actually see if it's possible for me to pack *that* lightly!

LauraA
04-20-2012, 01:04 PM
Thanks all - Katy was kind enough to post the pictures for me, and I notice that I sent two that were pretty much the same - sorry. I also want everyone to know that I tried using two small packing cubes, and that worked about the same. In some cases, it might be good to divide up stuff. I really should have taken everything out of the little red container (make up bag that goes inside the multicolored container with the other toiletries) and everything out of the purse! That way, you could have seen even more "stuff" that I stuffed in that little bag! By the way, I put that multicolored toiletry bag in the water bottle compartment. I can't wait for my trip! Take care, LauraA

TavaPeak
04-21-2012, 07:50 AM
I had a feeling you could do it! ;-) That Iberian looks great. Thanks for reporting back, Laura, and especially for the pix.

ncb4
04-21-2012, 09:26 AM
This is amazing, and as others have said, inspiring. Like Lani, I want to play with my Synapse now and see if I can get as much in there as you did.

LauraA
04-21-2012, 10:04 AM
Thanks all, and I promise - there was room to spare! As I said, my clothes are not small. Now, men's shoes wouldn't fit in that bottom section, but thin sandals or flats of mine do (size 8). Today I replaced the little multicolored toiletry kit that I had in the water bottle section with an old Eagle Creek long thin packing cube. Works even better because it is almost the shape/size of a water bottle. Oh, and it is too late to edit my packing list, but I forgot to mention AYR nasal gel - in with the liquids. It is great to keep your nose from getting dry on planes. I only take the nose spray that I listed in case I were ever congested - I've never actually needed it. Take care, LauraA

Moose
04-22-2012, 05:20 AM
Hi LauraA,
OK, that does it, I'm inspired. I'm going to visit my SILs in a couple of weeks for four days. I made up my mind to only take one bag and nothing else. I've been sitting here trying to figure out which bag. Brain Bag, Western Flyer, some other backpack. After reading your post and seeing the pictures I've decided on my ultraviolet Synapse. Thanks for the pictures!!! Never thought to use a cube either but I will now.
Take care,
Moose

TavaPeak
04-22-2012, 06:10 PM
*sigh* ultraviolet Synapse *sigh* ;-)

jilytibrme
05-08-2012, 11:29 AM
Great job LauraA, it's cool to see how creative others are uncomplicating travel

snowbot
05-08-2012, 01:37 PM
*sigh* ultraviolet Synapse *sigh* ;-)
*sigh* Iberian Synapse *sigh*
(not listed as being on backorder)

Maria
05-10-2012, 02:31 PM
Okay, I want one! Well, you convinced me. I am amazed at the amount you could carry! I also like the Dyneema version.

Thank you for the beautiful pictures and I'll blame you as I have no will power. It's on the wish list now!

:)

Lani
05-10-2012, 02:40 PM
LauraA -- You have inspired me. Truly. I didn't want to mention anything yet because I hadn't tested anything out yet, but over the past week I've been adjusting my packing list, and I think I will be able to pack with just my Synapse and Packing Cube Shoulder Bag on my upcoming trip to Japan (we fly out next weekend).

Once I compile everything together, I'll try to take photos and post them as well.

Thanks again, LauraA!

Badger
05-11-2012, 05:20 AM
I think I will be able to pack with just my Synapse and Packing Cube Shoulder Bag on my upcoming trip to Japan (we fly out next weekend).

EVERY time you say "I'm going to Japan," I die a little on the inside with jealousy. I know the list isn't perfect yet, but maybe you should tell us what you're packing right now. You know, to make up for all the jealousy.

Let's see . . . when I get my Synapse, I'm going to extreme-light pack it for a faculty meeting in the ugly third-floor conference room! While the meeting only lasts one hour in human time, I can assure you that it feels like two weeks. Wow, I can sense all of you turning green with envy as I speak, ha ha.

So as not to derail entirely the original post: very impressive packing, Laura. Each time I look at this thread, I see new travel possibilities for this summer and beyond.

GEOcycle
05-11-2012, 05:43 AM
Yeah Japan!!! Where are you going to be?

This means there will be at least two Synapses in Japan!

ncb4
05-11-2012, 07:52 AM
Let's see . . . when I get my Synapse, I'm going to extreme-light pack it for a faculty meeting in the ugly third-floor conference room! While the meeting only lasts one hour in human time, I can assure you that it feels like two weeks. Wow, I can sense all of you turning green with envy as I speak, ha ha.

I'm laughing, but not at your pain, badger, I promise. In a former life, I was a local newspaper reporter, and much of my job was spent covering school board, city council, and county commission meetings, DOE hearings, etc. I came to two conclusions. 1. Meetings are the most counter-productive invention in all history; the longer the meeting, the less gets accomplished. There should be a rule that no one is allowed to sit: that would keep meetings mercifully brief. 2. I was never going to get those wasted hours back, so it was time for a new job. The only good that came out of all those meetings was that I finally learned how to shoot rubber bands across a room.

Lani
05-11-2012, 11:08 AM
Let's see . . . when I get my Synapse, I'm going to extreme-light pack it for a faculty meeting in the ugly third-floor conference room! While the meeting only lasts one hour in human time, I can assure you that it feels like two weeks. Wow, I can sense all of you turning green with envy as I speak, ha ha.

Hahahaha! You get the I WIN badge!!!

And seriously, Badger -- do you REALLY want to spoil it like that by giving you a "draft" packing list? I think not!

Janine
05-11-2012, 12:37 PM
When I looked at your photos, I thought to myself, "Hey, that's my toothbrush...and my floss...and my deodorant...and I want an Iberian Synapse...!"

My iPad has the tan cover, though. ;-D

Badger
05-11-2012, 01:18 PM
Hahahaha! You get the I WIN badge!!!

And seriously, Badger -- do you REALLY want to spoil it like that by giving you a "draft" packing list? I think not!

Lani, I teach writing for a living. Of COURSE I want to see a draft! That way, you can have the benefits of peer review.

reeder
05-13-2012, 05:02 PM
My Black & Iberian Synapse just came back from an inaugural trip to Japan.

The amazing black hole held the following items:

Main Compartment:
2 short sleeve shirts, 2 long sleeve, 2 tank tops in a Daiso mesh packing cube (lightest one I own that zips down 3 sides and smaller than most I've seen)
1 Jean or Chino's, wearing the other pair.
Underwear + Socks in small Eagle Creek packing cube
Kindle keyboard
Macbook Air 11"
Chargers/cords in a 2*2*8" bag
3-1-1 toiletry bag (half full)
Bottom back of a cardigan on circular knitting needles in a fabric stuff sack (self-made sack)
10+ papers for reservation confirmations and knitting pattern
Nikon d3100 SLR
Pocket sized tripod for point and shoot
Last year's 4th of July Organizer Pouch (I remember this had a pen. I can't remember what else I had shoved into it after I took my passport out. Time for a clear pouch?)

Bottom Front Compartment:
Onsen towel
Marmot Crystalline rain coat
Timbuk2 folding messenger bag

Upper Front Compartments:
Headphones
Zojirushi thermos + 10+ tea bags.
2 spare phones - my US domestic android and a rented Japanese mobile
Canon s100 point & shoot
Solid Lotion stick
Eating utensils
Wet Naps
SLR battery charger
Macbook Air charger
Nikon 18-135 or 35mm lens (the other mounted to camera)
Miscellaneous bits and pieces

I did have to move the SLR into the messenger bag after I picked up a few goodies like a 20+ page glossy brochure gifted by a ryokan and the really cute toiletry bag with goodies inside. And the two boxes of Japanese sweets I bought were far too large to fit but sacrifices must be made for delicious souvenirs. My clothing size is usually XS in the US but M in Japan.

The down side is that re-packing every morning wasn't that fun since it was like speed Jenga. So now I have my eye on a Western Flyer or Tri Star that opens all the way up and just need to figure out where to shove an SLR in one of those.

historygal
05-13-2012, 06:20 PM
LauraA,
I wanted to thank you for your post and travel tips with the Synapse. While I was not gone near as long as you will be (three days vs. two weeks), the packing cube idea came in very handy in helping me use packing space more efficiently.

Lani
05-14-2012, 03:10 AM
Okey dokey, here's a picture of the stuff I'll be taking in my steel Dyneema Synapse to Japan next weekend:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5080/7195021376_7c79f1b96a_z.jpg

From top:


Synapse
iPad (1st gen), in Apple case
Eagle Creek Pack-It Specter Cube containing the bulk of my clothes, which contains:

2 short-sleeve T-shirts
1 pair lightweight capri denim pants
1 pair lightweight black capris
2 crinkle-fabric travel shirts
1 Salux wash cloth

Eagle Creek Pack-It Specter Half Cube, which contains a pair of MBT open-toed sandals
Eagle Creek Pack-It Specter Quarter Cube, which contains my underwear (2 pairs of panties, 1 bra)
My 3-1-1 kit
Eagle Creek Packable Tote bag (in case I buy some stuff in Japan that can't fit*
Tom Bihn Solar Travel Tray
Tom Bihn Small Clear Organizer Pouch as my make-up kit
Inflatable foot rest
Tom Bihn Small Solar Organizer Pouch for my Sennheiser noise cancelling folding headphones
Adventure Medic first aid kit


Some notes:

You don't see any chargers for the iPad because I'm carrying that in my "purse," which for this trip will be a matching steel Dyneema Packing Cube Shoulder Bag.

Took a bit of work to get all my makeup to fit in a small organizer rather than the Kit or even a clear pouch. The trick was to move my eyeshadow from its big clunky case into a contact lens case (I found instructions online). It snaps shut and is waterproof, which makes it perfect for preventing any eyeshadow from flaking out.

I tested the Eagle Creek Tote Bag, and it will easily fit my PCSB in it. But it's really only as big as one of those ladies' tote bag purses, so if I need, I can carry that with my Synapse on my flight home.

The inflatable foot rest is a real splurge. I also have a small folding plastic one I got from Magellan's a while go and I may choose to take that instead (it slides into the front pocket of the PCSB real easily), but the inflatable one is so much more comfortable. I typically am ok with just compression socks, but we're flying direct to Japan and I'd really like to be able to sit comfortably on the flight.

Without meaning to, this is a very Solar Dyneema-heavy batch. I think that makes me very happy!

Badger
05-14-2012, 06:16 AM
Hey Lani,
I'm glad that my gentle imperative was persuasive. First, NICE on the Specter line. I posted about them (http://forums.tombihn.com/customer-pictures-video/4620-stealth-order-2.html#post35206) some weeks ago and no one commented about them, which made me sad. I'm totally planning to pick up a few of those pieces for my upcoming travels, but let me know how they work for you! Inquiring minds want to know.

So here's the peer review. We'll do it "praise sandwich" style as we call it in the business:

First, whether you meant to or not, the combo of the Specter system, Steel Dyneema, and Solar Dyneema look bitchin' together. (Yeah, quote me.) I don't think I could have planned a "set" like this even if I tried! It looks really, really good together.

So, here's the critical filling in the "praise sandwich": I'm not sure you said how long you're going for? Crucial info. Second, is it supposed to rain at all, and if so, is there room in the PCSB for an umbrella or ultralight rain jacket (forgive me; I'm from Oregon and Oregonians take their Gore-Tex everywhere)?

Now, back to praise: I'm impressed that you fit all of that makeup in a small OP, and that, overall, you have so carefully curated your belongings. I know I would be tempted to take an extra shirt, or a bunch of omiyage that I'd never actually give to anyone, or a bunch of camera equipment that I probably wouldn't use. It's clear you know how you travel, and you've packed accordingly. Thanks for sharing with us!

snowbot
05-14-2012, 07:58 AM
Lani, please let us know how the inflatable foot rest works for you. I've never traveled with one before, but I started thinking about one in the middle of an overnight flight to Brazil in March. I just couldn't get comfortable and my knees hurt from having my legs extended for so long. I ended up resting my feet on my shoes, but that meant that the back of the shoe was rather bent by morning.

Lani
05-14-2012, 12:53 PM
So, here's the critical filling in the "praise sandwich": I'm not sure you said how long you're going for? Crucial info. Second, is it supposed to rain at all, and if so, is there room in the PCSB for an umbrella or ultralight rain jacket (forgive me; I'm from Oregon and Oregonians take their Gore-Tex everywhere)?

Ooo Badger, those are great questions!

My trip is short comparatively speaking. We fly out on Saturday, and return on Memorial Day. That pegs us at 10 days home-and-back, although two of those days will be spent in airplanes.

Also, I'm keeping a sharp eye on the weather. As it gets closer, I'll see if there are any forecasts for rain. More than likely, if we encounter torrential downpours, I'll just buy an umbrella there. If it looks like regular showers, I will probably take a windproof jacket *but worn onto the plane* so it won't need to be packed.

You know, I don't own any Goretex. I live in Northern California. We're pretty much weather-wimps here. That said, my husband is from Vancouver, WA, and he NEVER wears Goretex or even carries an umbrella. He said "wet" is his default state and that living in NorCal dries him out. lol

There are a couple of little gotchas in my packing inventory as well. For example, I'm not doing anything extreme or fancy. No fancy outfits. No hiking boots. No business attire. No exercise togs. Not even a bathing suit. If I were doing any of those things, I'd need to adjust considerably.

Lani
05-14-2012, 12:55 PM
Lani, please let us know how the inflatable foot rest works for you. I've never traveled with one before, but I started thinking about one in the middle of an overnight flight to Brazil in March. I just couldn't get comfortable and my knees hurt from having my legs extended for so long. I ended up resting my feet on my shoes, but that meant that the back of the shoe was rather bent by morning.

This is my second one; the first one developed a hole. I discovered the leak when I woke up mid-flight and my feet couldn't reach a surface anymore. I have a friend of mine who is shorter than me, and I turned her on to it, and she never flies without one now. She says it literally saves her feet. If you have room to pack one, you should try it on longer flights.

jiru
05-14-2012, 02:48 PM
Wow - I am so impressed! I've never been brave enough to try this with my Synapse. In fact, it has never even occurred to me to try! Just wondering - do you usually get through the checkpoint with (what I am assuming is your) 311 bag? The reason I ask is that I've had to ditch items at the last minute because they didn't fit into the standard quart bag (this was before I got the 3D clear organizer cube). I was using a clear pouch much like yours, but I found out too late that it was too big! I cheat a lot and put a lot of my stuff in my 8-year's bag. I don't know what I'll do when she's older and wants to bring products of her own! Have a wonderful time in Japan! I spent two of the happiest years of my life there when I was in college and I long to go back again someday soon.

Lani
05-14-2012, 03:53 PM
Wow - I am so impressed! I've never been brave enough to try this with my Synapse. In fact, it has never even occurred to me to try!

I blame LauraA and her pictures. ;-)


Just wondering - do you usually get through the checkpoint with (what I am assuming is your) 311 bag? The reason I ask is that I've had to ditch items at the last minute because they didn't fit into the standard quart bag (this was before I got the 3D clear organizer cube). I was using a clear pouch much like yours, but I found out too late that it was too big! I cheat a lot and put a lot of my stuff in my 8-year's bag. I don't know what I'll do when she's older and wants to bring products of her own! Have a wonderful time in Japan! I spent two of the happiest years of my life there when I was in college and I long to go back again someday soon.

I rarely ever check anything in, so yeah, my toiletry kit always goes through security.

You'll notice that I don't actually use a 3D Clear Organizer Cube as my 3-1-1 kit. I use a slightly larger, quart-sized fully transparent makeup kit I bought from Paula's Choice (although it's available elsewhere).

One big problem with the standard quart-sized Ziploc baggie is that it's not pleated. If you get their zipper-tabbed version, the bottom is actually pleated, making it easier for you to pack them with your toiletries.

I tend to spend a lot of time building a toiletry kit, to be honest. I'm always on the lookout for good little containers to decant into. And except for a couple of items, I rarely ever need 2 ounces of anything, so I can carry a lot of little 1-ounce and 1.5-ounce bottles.

Getting some of your toiletries packed in your child's 3-1-1 kit is actually a pretty smart move. Every person gets their own 3-1-1 kit, so you can easily get various things packed into everybody's 3-1-1 kits so they're all balanced.

reeder
05-14-2012, 04:23 PM
One big problem with the standard quart-sized Ziploc baggie is that it's not pleated. If you get their zipper-tabbed version, the bottom is actually pleated, making it easier for you to pack them with your toiletries.

I tend to spend a lot of time building a toiletry kit, to be honest. I'm always on the lookout for good little containers to decant into. And except for a couple of items, I rarely ever need 2 ounces of anything, so I can carry a lot of little 1-ounce and 1.5-ounce bottles.


I use a pleated ziploc since it helps things stand on their own. As for the containers, I have quite a collection. Muji, GoToob, Japanese Yen store (including containers intended for soy sauce), and even centrifuge tubes make it into my bag. Here are some that I've been thinking about 5 Empty Mini Travel Treatment Pump 4ml Bottles for Serum, liquid makeup, lotion | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Empty-Mini-Travel-Treatment-Pump-4ml-Bottles-Serum-liquid-makeup-lotion-/260910025443?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbf730ae3)

My dry toiletry case is actually larger than my wet, even though I take traditional liquid shampoo and conditioner. I may decant some of my solids into lip balm tubes instead since I really don't need that much product for 2-3 weeks.

Badger
05-14-2012, 08:28 PM
Ooo Badger, those are great questions!

My trip is short comparatively speaking. We fly out on Saturday, and return on Memorial Day. That pegs us at 10 days home-and-back, although two of those days will be spent in airplanes.

Also, I'm keeping a sharp eye on the weather. As it gets closer, I'll see if there are any forecasts for rain. More than likely, if we encounter torrential downpours, I'll just buy an umbrella there. If it looks like regular showers, I will probably take a windproof jacket *but worn onto the plane* so it won't need to be packed.

You know, I don't own any Goretex. I live in Northern California. We're pretty much weather-wimps here. That said, my husband is from Vancouver, WA, and he NEVER wears Goretex or even carries an umbrella. He said "wet" is his default state and that living in NorCal dries him out. lol

There are a couple of little gotchas in my packing inventory as well. For example, I'm not doing anything extreme or fancy. No fancy outfits. No hiking boots. No business attire. No exercise togs. Not even a bathing suit. If I were doing any of those things, I'd need to adjust considerably.

Thanks for your responses, Lani. For 10 days, your schema seems totally doable. Personally, I don't own an umbrella either, but IDK--it seems like a thing most people pack in case of rain. Have a good trip!

moriond
05-22-2012, 11:36 AM
Just wanted to thank Lani and Badger for the information and pictures of the Eagle Creek Specter Pack-Its (http://www.eaglecreek.com/packing_solutions/specter/). The half cube fits in the front water bottle pocket of the Synapse. The Silnylon material is really ultra-lite (less than an ounce ~ 25 grams). The Eagle Creek Pack-Its, including the Specter line, are on sale at 25% discount for May 15 - June 15, so take a look at these if you want to practice light-packing your Synapse.

moriond

Badger
05-22-2012, 01:07 PM
Just wanted to thank Lani and Badger for the information and pictures of the Eagle Creek Specter Pack-Its (http://www.eaglecreek.com/packing_solutions/specter/). The half cube fits in the front water bottle pocket of the Synapse. The Silnylon material is really ultra-lite (less than an ounce ~ 25 grams). The Eagle Creek Pack-Its, including the Specter line, are on sale at 25% discount for May 15 - June 15, so take a look at these if you want to practice light-packing your Synapse.

moriond

Wow, those are good savings. I was planning to pick up a few, so no time like the present. Are you serious that the half cube can fit in the water bottle pocket? The pocket seems so narrow! This is very good information to have.

moriond
05-22-2012, 01:36 PM
Wow, those are good savings. I was planning to pick up a few, so no time like the present. Are you serious that the half cube can fit in the water bottle pocket? The pocket seems so narrow! This is very good information to have.
You're right, fully packed the half cube is a bit too wide for the water bottle pocket. It's really well-sized (10 x 7 x 3 in / 25 x 18 x 8 cm) to go in sideways into the Synapse main compartment, since top of the Synapse can hold this (its length is very slightly wider than my 13" MacBook Pro or Air Cache, so it's pretty well sized for the Synapse). http://www.tombihn.com/Merchant2/images/synapse/synapsefoot.jpg

The sale seems to be through all vendors, so you can order from other sources, too.

moriond

moriond
06-04-2012, 01:08 PM
Okey dokey, here's a picture of the stuff I'll be taking in my steel Dyneema Synapse to Japan next weekend…<snipped out awesome picture with items in Specter packing cubes>
The inflatable foot rest is a real splurge. I also have a small folding plastic one I got from Magellan's a while go and I may choose to take that instead (it slides into the front pocket of the PCSB real easily), but the inflatable one is so much more comfortable. I typically am ok with just compression socks, but we're flying direct to Japan and I'd really like to be able to sit comfortably on the flight.

@Lani Can we get a brief recap on how things worked out with your Synapse as your main travel bag? I especially want to know whether the inflatable foot rest was worth the carrying space, and how well the Specter packing cubes performed for you, since they're very light weight. (The half cube size seemed most versatile for the Synapse).



Eagle Creek Pack-It Specter Half Cube, which contains a pair of MBT open-toed sandals

Also, slightly off topic, but which style of MBT sandals do you find comfortable? – I've only used their shoes, and by the way The Walking Company just started a big sale on their MBT shoes (http://www.thewalkingcompany.com/mbt-womens-sale) four days ago. (This being Hawaii, sizes of my current shoe smaller than 7 were already sold out in the local stores, and I had to order from the web.

moriond

Eire
06-10-2012, 04:54 AM
I am extremely impressed. Please tell how it all worked out. I have been slowly triming my packing list down and I would love to be able to travel with just the Synapse. What an inspiration. Thank you.

-Eire

Packbetter
07-08-2012, 06:35 PM
LauraA

This thread has so rattled my brain that, after reading this site for a lon time I finally decided to register and ask some questions.
I am considering getting a smaller bag for casual trips of 3 to 7 days.
When I looked at various bags I decided that the Brainbag was too big but I wondered if the Smart Alec was too small and no way would a Synapes work.
As I searched the TB site I kept running in to into Synapse posters and then I read this thread and wondered if a Dude could actually pack a Synapse with a Dude converted packing list like those attached to this thread. I read all the posts including those of Lani Trip to Japan and Allison trip to China.

So I wonder if you thing a guy could do the same with the Synapse. So far mosts of rhe posts by men seem to be about using the Synapse as a day bag and or taking a laptop and a few other items. i am interested primarily in packing clothes and would include iPad, phone iPod and chargers and misc personal items. I have never pack a bag near the size of the Synapse so it would be a challenge. Another reason for checking out the Synapse further is the fact that I like the design and color combos better than Smart Alec.

Do you think 2 Eagle Creek packing cubes filled could fit into the main compartment of the Synapse.

Long post for first post.

123veo
07-08-2012, 09:47 PM
While this might be a bit too minimalist, it makes for some interesting reading: The 2011 Gear Update: Style Edition - TYNAN (http://tynan.com/2011gear)

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 12:34 AM
Thanks for the link! Yes he ia a little to minimalist for me! I had never heard of him but found a link to his Synapse unpacking video. It is the only customer packing/unpacking video I have found! He pulled a lot of stuff out of the bag. It was interesting to see, but I am really hoping to find a real time Synapse clothes packing video. It will give me a better idea of how people are actually packing and the effective space in the compartments.

gochicken
07-09-2012, 07:46 AM
LauraA

Do you think 2 Eagle Creek packing cubes filled could fit into the main compartment of the Synapse.



I love my Synapse! I have 2 Eagle Creek Packing Sacs (sorry, no cubes), each with a very large bath towel folded in it, and they fit just fine with room to spare. There was a good 5-6 inches of space left up at the top. Remember, there is still the bottom zippered pocket, and the side pockets and the two top zippered compartments left to pack! I hope this helps! :)

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TavaPeak
07-09-2012, 09:10 AM
Love the plum Eagle Creeks and the ultraviolet in that black synapse, gochicken.

TavaPeak
07-09-2012, 09:14 AM
Thanks for the link! Yes he ia a little to minimalist for me! I had never heard of him but found a link to his Synapse unpacking video. It is the only customer packing/unpacking video I have found! He pulled a lot of stuff out of the bag. It was interesting to see, but I am really hoping to find a real time Synapse clothes packing video. It will give me a better idea of how people are actually packing and the effective space in the compartments.

Packbetter, I tried using my Synapse for a weekend trip to our cabin. It just didn't work for me, alas, and I don't even have to pack extra shoes for the cabin. However, I love my Tristar. It may be more than you want (perhaps a Western Flyer would be "just right" for you?). But I love the flexibility of the Tristar to go for shorter/longer trips. The organization is superb - that 3-part thing really works for me.

I love the Synapse for my daybag.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the info and picGochicke. If your sacs are the large sacs the LW are the same but not depth of EC Large cube.
My thought was tat if i could get all clothing, ipad and shower sandals in the main compartment, I could use other compartments for othe odds and ends.

Is ths size of the Synapse compartments posted on the site? I didn't see thoe dimensions.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 09:50 AM
TavaPeak
What were you trying to pack in the Synapse. Were you using cubes or other packing devices? The Tristar is a nice looking bag but more than I want to invest in a smaller bag. WF is less expensive but not as attractively priced as the Synapse. I was trying to get the lightest possible bag that woould do the job.

Badger
07-09-2012, 10:03 AM
It's kind of hard to know what bag will do the job without knowing what type/quantity of clothing you want to take, and your size. If it was summer, I could pack into a Synapse for a 2-3 day trip. I wear size 40 Euro shoes and size L or XL T-shirts (damn you slim fit). The more precise you can be about where you are going and when, what you want to pack, and how much of everything you want to take, the more helpful we can be, I think.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 11:24 AM
It's kind of hard to know what bag will do the job without knowing what type/quantity of clothing you want to take, and your size. If it was summer, I could pack into a Synapse for a 2-3 day trip. I wear size 40 Euro shoes and size L or XL T-shirts (damn you slim fit). The more precise you can be about where you are going and when, what you want to pack, and how much of everything you want to take, the more helpful we can be, I think.

Thanks for your interest Badger. The bag would be intentended for Summer Fair weather travel. All my trip clothing would be travel type Quick Dry wash and wear. So If I could pack enough for 3 days I could just rinse and repeat for la longer trip.I would intend to pack in the main compartment all of these. In the bag main compartment clothing would be in sets of 2, I would be wearing the 3rd set. Socks underwear LS shirts, hat, maybe a fleece and or lt weight thermal shirt. One pr travel pants.
Shower sandals. IPad No shoes.

I would use the other 5 pockets for chargers cables, keys, cell phone iPod meds misc etc.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 01:44 PM
Badger I made a full reply to your post and got a message that says the moderator has to approve it? I don't know how long it takes but it has been several hours.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 02:58 PM
Badger I am reentering my reply.
I am considering a smaller bag for casual travel of 3 to 7 days in summer/fair weather destinations. Will not carry extra shoes, computer, water bottle.

I would like to be able to pack the following in the Synapse.

All clothing is lightweight,washable, quick drying travel clothing.

Main compartment
2 each of socks, under wear and T's and LS button shirts.one pair light weight travel pants. Hat, fleece or lt jacket. Possible very lt weight thermal shirt. Hat, Shower sandals, bathing suit. IPad!*

In other compartments sunglasses chargers for iPad, iPod, Cell phone, camera and iPod Cell phone.

Keys, pocket items couple of food bars etc

Meds and vitamins, razor tooth brush, non liquid toiletry items, misc personal items

Boarding pass and hotel and ground transportation docs

If I can get enough stuff for 3 days I can rinse and repeat for length of the trip.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 02:59 PM
Badger I am reentering my reply.
I am considering a smaller bag for casual travel of 3 to 7 days in summer/fair weather destinations. Will not carry extra shoes, computer, water bottle.

I would like to be able to pack the following in the Synapse.

All clothing is lightweight,washable, quick drying travel clothing.

Main compartment
2 each of socks, under wear and T's and LS button shirts.one pair light weight travel pants. Hat, fleece or lt jacket. Possible very lt weight thermal shirt. Hat, Shower sandals, bathing suit. IPad!*

In other compartments sunglasses chargers for iPad, iPod, Cell phone, camera and iPod Cell phone.

Keys, pocket items couple of food bars etc

Meds and vitamins, razor tooth brush, non liquid toiletry items, misc personal items

Boarding pass and hotel and ground transportation docs

If I can get enough stuff for 3 days I can rinse and repeat for length of the trip.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 03:02 PM
I have tried to reply several times. So will try once more:

Badger I am reentering my reply.
I am considering a smaller bag for casual travel of 3 to 7 days in summer/fair weather destinations. Will not carry extra shoes, computer, water bottle.

I would like to be able to pack the following in the Synapse.

All clothing is lightweight,washable, quick drying travel clothing.

Main compartment
2 each of socks, under wear and T's and LS button shirts.one pair light weight travel pants. Hat, fleece or lt jacket. Possible very lt weight thermal shirt. Hat, Shower sandals, bathing suit. IPad!*

In other compartments sunglasses chargers for iPad, iPod, Cell phone, camera and iPod Cell phone.

Keys, pocket items couple of food bars etc

Meds and vitamins, razor tooth brush, non liquid toiletry items, misc personal items

Boarding pass and hotel and ground transportation docs

If I can get enough stuff for 3 days I can rinse and repeat for length of the trip.

Badger
07-09-2012, 08:50 PM
^That stuff should probably fit quite well, though the fleece may be pushing it. With that little clothing, you will likely not need a packing cube; you may be able to just bundle everything, using the socks and other small items as a core. The Synapse's pockets will hold your other items easily. HTH.

Packbetter
07-09-2012, 09:17 PM
Thanks for your input Badger.I would probably bundle wrap the clothes. However I have resorted to packing cubes so that in the event the TSA wants to go thru my clothes-i can better to keep it together. I am a little troubled that it is so tight that a fleece would be iffy, since even warm places have cool weather and evenings at times. I don't want packing in my bag to be a major struggle each time. I know the smart alec would have more space but I like the design and color combos of the Synapse better. The Smart Alec seems to feature gray and black. I would prefer a Navy or some shades of red. I don't do green. I don't particularly like black and red combos.

A bigger Synapse would seem to be an interesting choice.

backpack
07-10-2012, 08:48 AM
A cardigan and a wind breaker, which I use for cool areas and time of days in warm or even hot places, fit together nicely so a light weight fleece should be no problem.

Packbetter
07-10-2012, 05:31 PM
Backpack are you saying that you could fit a fleece and my full (above) packing list into the main compartment of the Synapse?

Badger
07-10-2012, 06:37 PM
^ I believe she's saying that, yes. And I respectfully disagree UNLESS you wear size S in everything. It might work if you're a M and the clothes are really compressible and the fleece is ultra-light.

Really, you're not going to know for sure unless you actually get a Synapse and try it out. If you were wondering, I DO think that your whole kit would fit very well into a Smart Alec, fleece and all. I know you're not into the colors, but if what you want is the equipment that will meet your needs . . .

Packbetter
07-10-2012, 08:47 PM
I wear L or Xl and the feedback suggests that the biggest packing cube the Synapse would take is the Tri-Star medium cube and based on it's dimensions there is no way my packing list could be contained by that cube. So it does not seem that the Synapse would work. I am not all that excited about the Smart Alec for the reasons stated above. I have bags available so I don't feel a pressing need to do anything and will just monitor the site for future developments.

Stacybean
07-11-2012, 05:52 AM
The Synapse is so astonishly capacious, well fitting and truly delightful to use that I think that is well worth a try. I am a large human and I think that your packing list is quite manageable. I pack so much into my synapse on a daily basis and I am certainly no expert. Perhaps an extra stuff sack could be purchased in case your fleece has to be clipped to the outside as a back up plan. I have not used packing cubes. I use the old school roll method.

rabergnc
07-11-2012, 09:34 AM
The Synapse is so astonishly capacious, well fitting and truly delightful to use that I think that is well worth a try. I am a large human and I think that your packing list is quite manageable. I pack so much into my synapse on a daily basis and I am certainly no expert. Perhaps an extra stuff sack could be purchased in case your fleece has to be clipped to the outside as a back up plan. I have not used packing cubes. I use the old school roll method.

As an owner of both a Synapse and Smart Alec, and as someone who wears large sizes, i have to respectfully disagree with Stacybean and others. I do not believe your packing list items would comfortably fit in a Synapse. I am a male and my clothes - even travel clothing - never folds or rolls small enough to fit more than 1 nights things into the Synapse, especially if the you want shirts nonwrinkled. The synapse is a great bag and does indeed hold a tremendous amount but not that much. (It would be hard to put a light fleece -polartec 100- in a bag with an overnight clothing change and an iPad. It might be doable but hard.). Your pack list would easily fit in a smart Alec and leave plenty of room for other things. I often travel for several nights using the Smart Alec with a list your size and workout clothing.

Badger
07-11-2012, 09:56 AM
As an owner of both a Synapse and Smart Alec, and as someone who wears large sizes, i have to respectfully disagree with Stacybean and others. I do not believe your packing list items would comfortably fit in a Synapse. I am a male and my clothes - even travel clothing - never folds or rolls small enough to fit more than 1 nights things into the Synapse, especially if the you want shirts nonwrinkled. The synapse is a great bag and does indeed hold a tremendous amount but not that much. (It would be hard to put a light fleece -polartec 100- in a bag with an overnight clothing change and an iPad. It might be doable but hard.). Your pack list would easily fit in a smart Alec and leave plenty of room for other things. I often travel for several nights using the Smart Alec with a list your size and workout clothing.

I totally agree with you, rabegnc. That's why I stand by my original comment: no one on the forum can be much help unless we know how much a person wants to pack and their clothing size. As I said earlier, I wear either M's L or XL shirts (though to clarify, I am not a dude) and I can pack for 2-3 summer days in the Synapse. T-shirts, an extra pair of shorts, and unmentionables. Pants, no way; fleece, double no way. Men's clothing is heavier and bulkier than women's clothing, even when the overall dimensions are somewhat similar. And we're all different, which is why what worked for Lani didn't work for TavaPeak, even though they're both women. I'm just happy that there is generally a TB bag that suits my needs, whatever the context.

Packbetter
07-11-2012, 11:38 AM
After I originnally read the posts in this thread, knowing the Synapse is 16.2 x 12.8 x 7.9 inches at each maximum measurement, even allowing for it's tapered shape, I theorized that a cube 15 x 10 x 4 could be fit into the main compartment. I also assumed that the Synapse would have some give to it as would a packing cube and that give would make it work. But TB CS says the Tri-Star medium packing cube would be the largest cube that would fit. So it would not even be close to adequate. The capaciousness of the Synapse is obviouly in the eye (or the bag) of the beholder. So maybe this discussion will help others who wonder if the Synapse will work for them as a travel bag.

It would be helpful if the TB people would add a non laptop clothes travel packing section to each bag video. It would provide way more info than the current style of videos.

dorayme
07-11-2012, 11:59 AM
Packbetter, I'm not sure what TB videos you are referring to. Almost all of the videos I have seen have been made by customers. They are demonstrating how they have found the bags to be useful to them. I have been able, though I do not always have their items, to get a good idea from their demonstration as to how my assortment of items will fit. Maybe you could make some videos with your items if they are that different from the existing videos so that the rest of us can gather new and useful ways to use our TB bags?

Packbetter
07-11-2012, 02:04 PM
Packbetter, I'm not sure what TB videos you are referring to. Almost all of the videos I have seen have been made by customers. They are demonstrating how they have found the bags to be useful to them. I have been able, though I do not always have their items, to get a good idea from their demonstration as to how my assortment of items will fit. Maybe you could make some videos with your items if they are that different from the existing videos so that the rest of us can gather new and useful ways to use our TB bags?


dorayme
Well let me add the Fasolatidoe that you are missing.
The videos I am referring to look like official TB videos. It is the same person introducing various TB bags.
The Synapse for example. Now if it's the case that those official appearing (to me) videos are not TB videos, then I would hope TB would make official videos providing the type of info I am looking for. The visual information about TB bags could be greatly improved.

If you read my above posts in this thread I layout in detail what I hoped to be able to carry in the Synapse. I couldn't find that info anywhere. The video and the optimistic posts in this thread lead me to think the Synapse might be effective for what I wanted.

What would have been helpful for me would have been a video that had someone packing men's clothes in the main comparment, not a laptop and books and paper notebooks, power supplies etc.
I am not saying to replace that information, merely to also provide info from the perspective of seeing the bag from the point of view of a one bag carryon travel (clothes and iPad) bag rather than seeing it soley as a day bag or school or commuter bag. Obviously a larger bag becomes a little easier to judge.

The fact that you found info to satisfy your questions about other bags is fine and that was what I was seeking to do as a potential customer by asking questions. Surely you are not suggesting that I shouldn't ask questions about a bag that interested me when I couldn't find the information on the site or on the web?

Perhaps you could make a video showing how you packed a Synapse with what I have detailed above, so others could actually see how a man could effectively use the Synapse as a travel bag for 3 or more days.

TavaPeak
07-11-2012, 04:44 PM
I am a tall woman who is well-upholstered. I wear women's size 12 shoes. So you are right, Badger! What works for one woman might not work for another. ;-) For the cabin I usually pack thick cotton crops (2 pr), 1 pr yoga pants, 2-3 t-shirts, 1 longsleeve top, pj's, 2 prs socks and undies, and my iPad. It all fit, but it was tight. That said, I didn't use any packing folders or anything to contain the bulk. I took a small organizer pouch with meds and toiletries -- I keep all everything else at the cabin. Usually I'd take a 3D clear packing cube. I'm not a minimalist packer, though I've done carryon for years.

Packbetter, I think it would be worth ordering a Synapse to try. LauraA tried hers, and it worked beautifully for her. Several others have had great success. Your packing list is more manageable than mine. The Dyneema might "flex" better? I LOVE my Synapse, and hope my teenagers never ever realize what a great, cool bag that it is.

dorayme
07-11-2012, 05:38 PM
Packbetter I'm a 5'2" woman, and my husband doesn't wear special travel lightweight clothing so I'm sorry, I won't be making the video for you anytime soon. I have traveled with my syapse for an overnight and two day trip. Best of luck finding the information you seek!

lonestar6
07-11-2012, 05:59 PM
Packbetter. I don't own a synapse but I do own a tristar backpack packing cube. 18*12.25*3.5 1100 cub in. The synapse is 16*11.5*7.9 1160 cub in.

In the backpack packing cube I places an ipad, midweight Patagonia long sleeve fleece, 2 long sleeve shirts, 1travel pants, a ball cap, flip flops, and 2underwear rolls (underpants, sports bra, heavy weight boot socks all rolled in a tshirt).
The shirts,pants,underwear rolls and flip flops fit easily in the tristar med packing cube as well.
I just tossed it in, no fancy packing method. Closed easily in both configurations. Your mileage may vary.

Packbetter
07-11-2012, 06:50 PM
Tava Peak
That opening line of your post was awesome. "Well upholstered". I may borrow that term, but will give you full recognition and credit, for it.

It seems that the Synapse at best is a close call for what I hoped to do. Although I agree that using a cube or a folder may wind up taking away some space *one could hope that the loss of space would be offset by the compression provided. One of the other reasons to use a cube is so that if the TSA decides to check my clothes their is some hope that they could check the contents while still in the cube or folder making repacking easier.

As I mentioned above TB CS who have been very responsive say that the largest cube that would fit is the tri-star medium cube which is smaller that the full size. Eagle Creek cube. I tried putting some things in the Eagle Creek cube and their was no way my clothing/packing list was going to fit. I certainly have no problem with the idea of packing a bag deliberately enough to maximize use of space. However all indications are that it would likely be a constant struggle to pack the Synapse. What if on some occasion I need an extra shirt or other item. The bag would then be unusable for that trip. I think my clothing would take more space than yours or Laura A's.*

At this point as much as I like the design I think it is too small and too specialized to be useful for me.

I thank you for your input and wish you happy travels.*

If your teenagers are eying your bag just stick some 1930's music and some vegetables in it and that may do the trick!

Packbetter
07-11-2012, 06:54 PM
dorayme

Enjoy your Synapse and the associated travels.

Packbetter
07-11-2012, 07:04 PM
Lonestar6

As I mentioned in my response to TavaPeak i did a test in a larger cube than the Tri-Star medium cube and it was not working. I would guess that my clothing takes up more space than yours. The Synapse is apparently just too small for me, even though clearly some women are able to use it in the way that I had hoped to. Maybe in the next iteration TB will add a few hundred cubic inches. I thik MMWV.

lonestar6
07-11-2012, 07:14 PM
Lonestar6

As I mentioned in my response to TavaPeak i did a test in a larger cube than the Tri-Star medium cube and it was not working. I would guess that my clothing takes up more space than yours. The Synapse is apparently just too small for me, even though clearly some women are able to use it in the way that I had hoped to. Maybe in the next iteration TB will add a few hundred cubic inches. I thik MMWV.
I can highly recommend the tristar for whatever you are packing. It absorbs my army uniforms and combat boots without batting an eye. I packed men's large travel clothes in the packing cube. I took pictures, but unfortunately the web interface is not working so I am limping along on my cell phone.

Packbetter
07-11-2012, 08:51 PM
lonestar6

The Tri-Star certainly seems like a great bag, but i have bags already that can handle all of my larger packing requirements.
I considered the Synapse for other circumstances, but I really don't need another bag, so for the time being I will keep my powder dry so to speak and see what comes along.

Thank you for your Military Service and stay safe.

backpack
07-11-2012, 08:59 PM
Lonestar6 , do stay safe, take good care and Thank You for your service.


The Synapse is a terrific every day carry backpack.

Some people, especially petite ladies, and minimalist packers, who take a minimum amount of lightweight travel clothes and shoes (up to size 8) can use it as a multi-days travel backpack.

Regular shoes, lightweight shoes more than a size 8 or chunky ones, fleece and other heavy cold weather gear are almost a sure way to seriously consider the lovely Smart Alec.
Or, if the length of your torso allows, my preferred travel bag, the wonderful Brain Bag which expends to the capacity of a Western Flyer but can shrink, thanks to its unique compression straps, to resemble a slightly longer Synapse .

capncat
07-12-2012, 11:57 AM
i'm very tempted to try onebagging using my synapse for a couple upcoming weeklong trips! i ordered a versalette last night ( {r}evolution apparel | the versalette (http://revolutionapparel.is/pages/making-versatile-apparel) ), which i'm thinking might help? i'm excited to see what kind of packing possibilities that might open up, since it could eliminate the need to bring shirts AND a skirt AND a dress AND a pair of pants, and could be changed up by itself plus maybe a belt and some colorful (and very packable!) leggings.

backpack
07-12-2012, 02:11 PM
i'm very tempted to try onebagging using my synapse for a couple upcoming weeklong trips! i ordered a versalette last night ( {r}evolution apparel | the versalette (http://revolutionapparel.is/pages/making-versatile-apparel) ), which i'm thinking might help? i'm excited to see what kind of packing possibilities that might open up, since it could eliminate the need to bring shirts AND a skirt AND a dress AND a pair of pants, and could be changed up by itself plus maybe a belt and some colorful (and very packable!) leggings.


This is cute, what color did your order? I would say take at least one thin and packable neutral color top, pant and fabric long belt/scarf.

In case the versalette gets stained by a drop of salad dressing or ice cream right in the middle of the fabric and will need pre-treating before being washed.

Please share your packing list and, if possible, pictures. :)

capncat
07-12-2012, 04:30 PM
backpack, i ordered a charcoal one to start with. however, if i use it a bunch, i might get an indigo one, too (LOVE the color, but it's sold out for now). i'm thinking about a couple of these sash/belts to use with it The Sash | Shop American Apparel (http://store.americanapparel.net/rsa0501.html) (adds a little color, y'know?), plus my trusty black icebreaker cami and shirt and maybe a couple other odds and ends to change it up or for when i inevitably spill something on myself.

i'll definitely post packing list/pics for each trip once it's closer to go time! each trip has a very different purpose and climate to work around, so the packing challenge is extra exciting!

BMEPhDinCO
07-25-2012, 01:29 PM
capncat - cool concept, thanks for posting it! I would be interested in seeing a list for sure.

dorayme
07-25-2012, 01:41 PM
I'm also very interested in following your ventures and packing list capncat, the versalette looks like one of those garments that is a lot of fun!

backpack
07-25-2012, 02:51 PM
backpack, i ordered a charcoal one to start with. however, if i use it a bunch, i might get an indigo one, too (LOVE the color, but it's sold out for now). i'm thinking about a couple of these sash/belts to use with it The Sash | Shop American Apparel (http://store.americanapparel.net/rsa0501.html) (adds a little color, y'know?), plus my trusty black icebreaker cami and shirt and maybe a couple other odds and ends to change it up or for when i inevitably spill something on myself.

i'll definitely post packing list/pics for each trip once it's closer to go time! each trip has a very different purpose and climate to work around, so the packing challenge is extra exciting!

A sash can be made of cotton fabrics which should come on sale any time soon because of the change of season and new collections.

Combining 2 cotton colors by sewing or using sewing tape mean having a reversible belt, long scarf or even head covering in chilly, way too hot, light sprinkle weather or traditional historical sites which require head covering.

One side in gray and one in indigo would be perfect and for the price of remnant/on sale fabric, you could build a whole reversible long scarves wardrobe for pennies. :)