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HYPEractiv
01-14-2014, 10:09 AM
Does anyone have any opinions? I don't carry much: 13" macbook air, a notebook, some pens/highlighters, an occasional book, and other small things.

What advantages/disadvantages does the pilot have over the cadet for use as a daily briefcase? (for example. I see that the Pilot can hold a water bottle).

Thanks!

Mausermama
01-14-2014, 11:17 AM
I can't answer your question, but I am also wondering about the Pilot versus the Cadet. I have a Pilot on order for my husband, but now I'm wondering if he would rather have a Cadet. He likes a minimal look, but I know he would want it to carry his computer, his portfolio, and have a dedicated space for his iPhone and business cards.

I received a Co-Pilot yesterday, and after having looked at the back large compartment, I'm afraid he wouldn't like how the zipper barely goes down the side at all. I was thinking it would go approximately half way down, but from what I can see, it doesn't appear to.

MelissaL
01-14-2014, 11:34 AM
What advantages/disadvantages does the pilot have over the cadet for use as a daily briefcase? (for example. I see that the Pilot can hold a water bottle).



You say water bottle, I say umbrella. :) I am using my co-pilot today and it is raining. I don't usually carry a water bottle but always carry an umbrella. From what I can tell you, it seems as if the Pilot is lighter than the Cadet (the Cadet has larger dimensions but not depth.) Honestly, although I am Pilot/co-pilot-biased (I have a Pilot on order), you can't go wrong with either bag. The Cadet is nice. If you are not carrying much (and it sounds like you aren't), then either one would be fine.

maverick
01-14-2014, 04:45 PM
hi HYPEractiv, Mausermama!

both the pilot and the cadet will fit what each of you have described, except the cadet won't accommodate most water bottles.

in addition to a dedicated spot for a bottle or thermos, the pilot also has a dedicated spot for the ipad mini, if you happen to carry that or a similarly sized tablet - that isn't to say that the cadet won't accommodate a tablet. the cadet has a dedicated zippered pocket for a phone, whereas the phone would go into a front compartment of the pilot along with writing utensils. the pilot has two dyneema lined pockets inside the main compartment, whereas the cadet has one that spans the width of the bag. the cadet that would accommodate a 13" macbook air would also accommodate a 15" macbook pro - so the cadet has a slightly larger footprint than the pilot.

i think it comes down to which design resonates with you more.

both are beautifully designed, and both are checkpoint friendly!

you can always order both to try out in your home, and keep the one that you like (though as others will tell you, that can result in you keeping both :).

Mausermama, the zipper to the main compartment of the cadet also doesn't go more than a couple of inches down the side.

HYPEractiv
01-14-2014, 09:46 PM
Is there a way to get side by side shots? I really think the Pilot will fit my needs better, but the Cadet is a proven model. The biggest problem with buying both is paying shipping cost to return :-/

Mausermama
01-15-2014, 05:52 AM
Thanks for responding, Maverick. I went out and located some photos of the interior of the Cadet, and I really like it. Hubby requested black/wasabi, and I was pleased to see it is available in that color combination. I am contemplating ordering both, but am also hesitant because I dislike paying to send the other one back. It definitely appears as though the Cadet would take care of his wants, though.

Off to contemplate!

UK-Limey
01-16-2014, 03:05 AM
I have a Cadet in Black-Wasabi. In my opinion, it looks more like a briefcase than the Pilot; more 'minimal' as you mentioned above. The Pilot appears to be more of a 'hybrid' travel / laptop bag. The Pilot was not available when I bought my Cadet, but even now I would choose it. This is because it is slimmer and I need it to fit inside the middle compartment of my Tri-Star when travelling with work.

On a daily basis, my Cadet holds a dell laptop in a 4Z cache with a few work papers. I also have a Side-Effect (contains laptop power brick, mouse, USB key, etc) and iPad mini that fit well into the front of the Cadet.

My water bottle is a Nalgene Flask which is also slim enough to fit in the front pocket; in this case, the iPad mini goes inside the main compartment instead.

Black-Wasabi is a great choice for work; professional looking on the outside but with just a bit of individuality on the inside.

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hamiltee
02-04-2014, 04:09 PM
On a daily basis, my Cadet holds a dell laptop in a 4Z cache with a few work papers. I also have a Side-Effect (contains laptop power brick, mouse, USB key, etc) and iPad mini that fit well into the front of the Cadet.

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UK-Limey, do you need a cache for your Dell in the Cadet? Does the Cadet have enough padding to put a computer directly in it "naked"?

hamiltee
02-04-2014, 04:53 PM
Also, does anyone know how well (or if) a 4Z cache (essentially a 15" laptop) can fit well in a Pilot? Would the laptop have to be in a cache to protect it?

HYPEractiv
02-04-2014, 06:19 PM
Also, does anyone know how well (or if) a 4Z cache (essentially a 15" laptop) can fit well in a Pilot? Would the laptop have to be in a cache to protect it?

Just got the Pilot in the mail today. Although I don't have a 4Z cache, I do have a 15" macbook pro. The fit, without any case, is fairly snug (maybe on finger breadth of room on only one of the sides.)

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Trevorro
02-05-2014, 09:22 AM
I got my Black Dyneema Pilot last night — what a beautiful bag — and one of the first things I wanted to check was whether a 15" Retina MacBook Pro in a TB cache would fit in the main pocket. Much to my pleasant surprise, it fits perfectly (things are tight in there for sure, but nothing is visibly stretched), and the rail system works like a dream!

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Trevorro
02-05-2014, 09:28 AM
I've got my Pilot pretty densely packed, and even with the 15" laptop in there, with the Absolute Shoulder Strap carrying it is nothing but breezes.

I've got a Side Effect with my wallet/keys/gum/bizcards in one of the front pockets; and a small Eagle Creek cube for whiteboard markers along with my flashlight and pens and laptop charger in the other.

My Contigo mug full of Joe is in the centre pocket, with room on top for an apple or protein bar.

All told, this bag is the perfect match to my Black Ballistic / Wasabi Tri-Star, both in function and appearance.

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Jeff A
02-05-2014, 10:35 AM
Wow, I didn't think the Pilot would fit a MacBook Pro Retina 15" with TB cache. I use a Synapse 25 with my TB cache and laptop, may have to consider getting a Pilot someday. I'm loving my Co-Pilot :)

UK-Limey
02-05-2014, 01:12 PM
UK-Limey, do you need a cache for your Dell in the Cadet? Does the Cadet have enough padding to put a computer directly in it "naked"?

Hi. The foam on the sides & bottom gives some protection. But I would never go through an airport without the cache. Backwards and forwards to the office is OK without the cache.

hamiltee
02-06-2014, 10:11 AM
Just got the Pilot in the mail today. Although I don't have a 4Z cache, I do have a 15" macbook pro. The fit, without any case, is fairly snug (maybe on finger breadth of room on only one of the sides.)

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HYPEractiv, is that the Steel/UV Pilot combo? Could you by chance post some interior shots of the UV? :-)

moriond
02-06-2014, 11:34 AM
HYPEractiv, is that the Steel/UV Pilot combo? Could you by chance post some interior shots of the UV? :-)

@hamiltee for pictures of the Steel/UV Pilot with some interior shots of the UV, check the pictures gochicken posted yesterday to the The New Pilot Available for Pre-Order in January 2014 (http://forums.tombihn.com/tom-bihn-news-everything-else/6954-new-pilot-available-pre-order-january-2014-a.html) thread.

flyleaf
07-14-2016, 09:18 AM
Trevorro, has there been any change in your opinion about using the Dyneema Pilot with Cache for your 15" MBP with Retina Display? Is the fit truly practical for everyday use? Because your post is really tempting me to buy the exact same setup for my 15" Retina. The pocket arrangement is just so much better than the Cadet, particularly the water bottle pocket. Is it still "nothing but breezes?"


I got my Black Dyneema Pilot last night what a beautiful bag and one of the first things I wanted to check was whether a 15" Retina MacBook Pro in a TB cache would fit in the main pocket. Much to my pleasant surprise, it fits perfectly (things are tight in there for sure, but nothing is visibly stretched), and the rail system works like a dream!

5496

Trevorro
07-25-2016, 08:01 AM
Trevorro, has there been any change in your opinion about using the Dyneema Pilot with Cache for your 15" MBP with Retina Display? Is the fit truly practical for everyday use? Because your post is really tempting me to buy the exact same setup for my 15" Retina. The pocket arrangement is just so much better than the Cadet, particularly the water bottle pocket. Is it still "nothing but breezes?"

I no longer carry my RMBP 15" every day - I'm an iPad Pro guy now. But whenever I do haul the Pilot / MPB combo it's breezy as it was when the bag was brand new!

Cronus
12-01-2016, 11:42 PM
I received my Cache for the new 2016 15" Touch Bar rMBP the other day, and thought I'd upload a few pictures to show it in the Pilot. I think it fits just fine. I really dig this setup. I know these are subtle variations of each other, but I like being comprehensive. :cool: The laptop is in the Cache in each of these pictures.

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