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lacyfinn
04-14-2014, 07:07 PM
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Sometimes I have crazy ideas that actually work out. My recent crazy idea was to take my family to the UK for three weeks. A fantastically uncrazy idea was to bring my packing cube shoulder bag along. Its light weight, durable, and holds a lot. I held my journal, three passports, a set of water color paints, two granola bars, guide book, and other various items we picked up along the way.

The bag was so handy and light (even as I filled with so many "necessary" items) I forgot I was wearing it. Here is the only "bag cameo" as it sit on Hadrian's Wall in Northumbria National Park. Lastly you can see it on my hip as we wander through the Rievaulx Abbey ruins. A perfect trip, made better, by not having to worry about what I was carrying or what I was carrying it in. Thank you Tom Bihn.

GoStanford
04-14-2014, 07:53 PM
Thanks for posting this! What a great excursion for your family. I have the exact same pcsb and am happy to get ideas on how to use it!

Yoda Sloth
04-14-2014, 10:14 PM
Which shoulder strap did you use on it? Looks like the "regular" one?

scribe
04-14-2014, 10:53 PM
Nice! I'm definitely being converted to the awesome utility of the PCSB - I have a PCBP but it's quite large so I'm not sure when I'd use it. Clearly I need to travel more :)

ETA: thanks to your photos, I decided that the PCSB would make a perfect lightweight SE substitute for my flight to the US, where I hope to pick up a couple of back-ordered SEs from a friend who lives out there. Order duly placed!

moriond
04-15-2014, 12:56 AM
ETA: thanks to your photos, I decided that the PCSB would make a perfect lightweight SE substitute for my flight to the US, where I hope to pick up a couple of back-ordered SEs from a friend who lives out there. Order duly placed!
Agree that @lacyfinn's photos of the PCSB make a good case for this bag.

The PCSB will hold the FJN. It's also a good bag to use inside a Swift. The main drawback to using this as a SE substitute is that the regular (200d) Dyneema usually used with the PCSB and all other packing cube accessories makes it a bit floppy, unless your contents either fill the bag or act as "stiffener" (e.g., you're carrying around jackets, etc inside the bag). This is one of the reasons why the recent option to purchase the Packing Cube Shoulder Bag in 400d Dyneema (due to their running out of certain 200d Dyneema colors (http://forums.tombihn.com/tom-bihn-news-everything-else/7419-were-temporarily-out-steel-wasabi-iberian-200d-dyneema-nylon.html)) is so attractive.

I also meant to reply in the Perfect Packing Cube for S19 (http://forums.tombihn.com/tom-bihn-news-everything-else/7250-perfect-packing-cube-s19-2.html) thread that the PCSB does also work in the bottom outside pocket of the Synapse 25, but it's better sized for the inside of the main Synapse 19 compartment. (In the Synapse 25 front pocket you're stuffing it rather full, so the back of the compartment will bulge into the main compartment of the Synapse 25, even though you can fit a totally full PCSB in if you work it in. You're better off using an Aeronaut end cube, which is similarly sized but not as thick in the front pocket of a Synapse 25). Didn't get around to answering these earlier due to the pain of having to take pictures in poor lighting conditions to illustrate the point.

HTH moriond

scribe
04-15-2014, 01:27 AM
Thanks, moriond! I've actually ordered the PCSB in black, which I think is 400d? In any case, for the flight I'll be using it to carry my iPad Mini (in cache), so it shouldn't be too floppy. That's one of the reasons for giving the PCSB a try - the iPad won't fit in a Side Effect, so I'd need to take something larger like my MCB.

Thanks also for the tip about using it with the S19. I have a 13" MacBook Air cache on rails in there most of the time, which takes up a lot of space, but it's good to know about other packing options!

Auntie Em
04-15-2014, 07:18 AM
I also have a PCSB, also in UV, and have used it as intended. My normal carry-on personal item is a camera bag/purse for a DSLR + lenses. On a recent trip (by first with a TB bag!), I used the PCSB in the TriStar center section to corral items like my hairbrush and makeup bag. Once I got to my daughter's house, I moved my wallet, sunglasses, kleenex, etc., to the PCSB and carried it cross-body as my purse. It IS fairly large, but I'm a tall woman and tend to have purses at least that size. My only complaint is that there is no internal organization other than the front zipper pocket and one O-ring. I've decided to buy a Side Effect to hold my essentials, then I can transfer that from the camera purse to the PCSB as needed. I had hesitated to buy a (an?) SE before because I am sure it will be too small for my everyday items.

I must say, this forum is very addicting! I have monitored a couple of other non-work related forums for years without ever before feeling the desire to actually register and post something.

Tachiyaku
04-15-2014, 11:40 AM
I also meant to reply in the Perfect Packing Cube for S19 (http://forums.tombihn.com/tom-bihn-news-everything-else/7250-perfect-packing-cube-s19-2.html) thread that the PCSB does also work in the bottom outside pocket of the Synapse 25, but it's better sized for the inside of the main Synapse 19 compartment. (In the Synapse 25 front pocket you're stuffing it rather full, so the back of the compartment will bulge into the main compartment of the Synapse 25, even though you can fit a totally full PCSB in if you work it in. You're better off using an Aeronaut end cube, which is similarly sized but not as thick in the front pocket of a Synapse 25).

HTH moriond

I'm a little confused. The PCSB seems to be all around smaller than the aeronaut end cube:

PCSB: 11.75" x 7.75" x 3"
Aeronaut end cube: 13.4" x 7.9" x 3.1"



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Badger
04-15-2014, 12:09 PM
I'm a little confused. The PCSB seems to be all around smaller than the aeronaut end cube:

PCSB: 11.75" x 7.75" x 3"
Aeronaut end cube: 13.4" x 7.9" x 3.1"

I've found that it is possible to fit a WF small cube in the front pocket of the S25, and that cube is sized more or less the same as the PCSB. I do agree with moriond's point that if the cube is overpacked, it will cannibalize space from the main compartment of the bag. Personally, I think two 3D Organizer Cubes are the perfect fit for the S25, but, in order to not hijack the thread:

@lacyfinn, that amazing photo of Hadrian's Wall made me a) super jealous; b) want to run across the moors with what little hair I have blowing back in the misty wind.

tpnl
04-15-2014, 12:12 PM
I'm a little confused. The PCSB seems to be all around smaller than the aeronaut end cube:

PCSB: 11.75" x 7.75" x 3"
Aeronaut end cube: 13.4" x 7.9" x 3.1"



FYI

The same general dimension differences apply to the PCBPs as well compared to their dedicated packing cube equivalent - both the Aeronaut and Tri-Star/Western Flyer versions.

The reasons for the difference - I do not know. I would think it would be to accommodate for the extra straps, o-rings that are not in the standard packing cube.

Cheers!

lacyfinn
04-15-2014, 12:12 PM
Go Stanford, at first I was in London teaching a retreat on seeing the good, beautiful and true in our lives. I used it as a packing cube for packing watercolor paints. After the retreat when we began touring the UK, I used it as my all around carry everything bag. Perfect use of space.

lacyfinn
04-15-2014, 12:13 PM
Yoda Sloth, yes I used the regular strap. Worked great, packs small.

lacyfinn
04-15-2014, 12:18 PM
Moriond, You know I liked it floppy. When it's floppy it forms to my body which is good in large crowds of people. Like on public transportation in London. Keeps my bag from waking into people. For me that's the trouble with backpacks... clocking an unsuspecting person when I turn around.

moriond
04-15-2014, 12:28 PM
I'm a little confused. The PCSB seems to be all around smaller than the aeronaut end cube:

PCSB: 11.75" x 7.75" x 3"
Aeronaut end cube: 13.4" x 7.9" x 3.1"


Sorry for the confusion @Tachiyaku, it turns out that I was referring to the Small Packing Cube for the Tri-Star as an alternative to the PCSB for the front pocket of the Synapse 25, and not the Aeronaut end cube. Dimensions are:
(TB0946/TB0947) 12.8" x 7.4" x 2.4"/ 325 x 188 x 60mm 2.5 oz / 70gr

This is slightly longer than the PCSB, but not as tall at 7.4" vs. 7.75", and mostly not as thick at 2.4" vs 3". I had to look this one up, because I don't usually use the Small Tri-Star Packing Cube in the Tri-Star, but instead fill that pocket with numerous other separate items. Also, this packing cube has the distinction of being the only packing cube that I own in Solar Dyneema. I had to look up the web receipt for my purchase to check this (4/28/2009). The product code was different (TB091), and it went in with the pre-order for the original Tri-Star, and all the items were back-ordered. At that time Solar was the first Dyneema lining they offered, other than steel. There was a very limited time when they offered some packing cubes in that color, and also offered the Packing Cube Shoulder Bag in Solar. (@Lani picked hers up at that time, but I already had a PCSB in Steel, so I didn't order this.)

I remember that this packing cube was another pouch that I tried out in the Imago in the Diaper cube for Imago? (http://forums.tombihn.com/questions-about-bags-accessories/5098-diaper-cube-imago.html) thread that shows the Iberian PCSB, Steel (old version Side Effect), and Iberian Clear Quarter Packing Cube inside my Hunter/Cork/Sage Imago.

HTH. moriond

ETA: The Western Flyer Small Packing Cube @Badger mentions is also taller and thicker than the Tri-Star Small Packing Cube (8.6" vs. 7.4" and 3" thick vs. 2.4"):

Western Flyer Small
TB0955/TB0956 11.7" x 8.6" x 3" / 298 x 218 x 75mm 3 oz / 85gr

Apologies to @lacyfinn for the thread highjack, and I'll put a reply into the Perfect Packing Cube for S19 (http://forums.tombihn.com/tom-bihn-news-everything-else/7250-perfect-packing-cube-s19-2.html) thread where this belongs.

As @Badger says, these are really beautiful pictures. I haven't been in that part of Britain for a long time.

Tachiyaku
04-15-2014, 12:30 PM
Thanks Badger and Moriond, very helpful. Apologies for the thread hijack.

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moriond
04-15-2014, 12:36 PM
Moriond, You know I liked it floppy. When it's floppy it forms to my body which is good in large crowds of people. Like on public transportation in London. Keeps my bag from waking into people. For me that's the trouble with backpacks... clocking an unsuspecting person when I turn around.

@lacyfinn I'll see whether the 400d PCSB strikes a better balance for me than the 200d Dyneema in the PCSB. If you haven't tried the 400d Dyneema, for example, in the Shop Bags, the texture is slightly more fabric-like but there's still a pliability that I don't find in Parapack. The main issue for me with the 200d Dyneema in the PCSB is that if you're carrying something small and heavier, like a camera, and the rest of the bag is not carrying jackets etc. that fill it up, the PCSB will sag around that item, so it will work well if there are other items to fill out the bag and make it hold its shape, but won't work as well when it is nearly empty (except for those items).

From the experience of the Shop Bags, Side Effect, and Swift/Little Swift, I expect to find the 400d Dyneema PCSB will still conform to my body.

moriond

GoStanford
04-15-2014, 12:49 PM
If you haven't tried the 400d Ballistic Nylon, for example, in the Shop Bags, the texture is slightly more fabric-like but there's still a pliability that I don't find in Parapack.

moriond

I am confused about this - are the Black and Nordic in the shop bags the 400d material or the 200d? The description states 200d but I remember some discussion about this. I re-read the thread on limited availability of 400d in some products such as PCSB and I believe that applies only to Black and Nordic, right?

moriond
04-15-2014, 12:59 PM
I am confused about this - are the Black and Nordic in the shop bags the 400d material or the 200d? The description states 200d but I remember some discussion about this. I re-read the thread on limited availability of 400d in some products such as PCSB and I believe that applies only to Black and Nordic, right?
Yes, Black and Nordic are Dyneema colors that are only available in 400d weight. Steel is available in both weights of Dyneema, but I only have Steel Shop Bags in 200d Dyneema. Side Effects are (or were) available in both weights -- the initial offerings of Steel Side Effects last year, when Solar and Wasabi were offered, were only 200d Dyneema. That changed, I think, after Black Dyneema Side Effects became available with the release of that fabric at the end of September, and then again when a Nordic Dyneema Side Effect option was added in January, before the release of the Pilot. Steel (400d) Dyneema Side Effects then became an option, I think.

I think that the availability of the PCSB in 400d Dyneema only extends to Black and Nordic, and not to Steel (400d Dyneema), according to Darcy's announcement:


We're temporarily out of our Steel, Wasabi, and Iberian 200d Dyneema/nylon fabrics. Our friends at the expert mill in Japan that weave and dye the fabric for us have already been hard at work for several weeks making more. Still, we're out, and that means for the short term, we won't be able to make more bags with those as linings or exteriors. Just to be extra sure we're clear: those colors aren't going away, we've just run out of them -- temporarily.

<snip>
There is a silver (Dyneema? ha ha.. ehh..) lining to all of this: we're making limited production runs of the some accessories in 400d Dyneema/nylon in Black, Nordic, and Steel. Yup! This will be your one chance ever to order those bags in those fabrics, and they're up for pre-order now:

Travel Tray (http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0991.html), Black and Nordic
Packing Cube Shoulder Bag (http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0921.html), Black and Nordic
Packing Cube Backpack (Aeronaut) (http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0925.html), Black, Nordic, and Steel
Packing Cube Backpack (Tri-Star/Western Flyer) (http://www.tombihn.com/ipad_case/TB0924.html), Black, Nordic, and Steel

Notice that Steel 400d Dyneema is not mentioned as an option for the Packing Cube Shoulder Bag. It is an option for the Packing Cube Backpacks.

HTH. moriond

moriond
04-15-2014, 03:31 PM
I also have a PCSB, also in UV, and have used it as intended. My normal carry-on personal item is a camera bag/purse for a DSLR + lenses. On a recent trip (by first with a TB bag!), I used the PCSB in the TriStar center section to corral items like my hairbrush and makeup bag. Once I got to my daughter's house, I moved my wallet, sunglasses, kleenex, etc., to the PCSB and carried it cross-body as my purse. It IS fairly large, but I'm a tall woman and tend to have purses at least that size. My only complaint is that there is no internal organization other than the front zipper pocket and one O-ring. I've decided to buy a Side Effect to hold my essentials, then I can transfer that from the camera purse to the PCSB as needed. I had hesitated to buy a (an?) SE before because I am sure it will be too small for my everyday items.

I must say, this forum is very addicting! I have monitored a couple of other non-work related forums for years without ever before feeling the desire to actually register and post something.

Welcome to the forums, Auntie Em. You might be interested in the videos that @maverick did for the Side Effect, that appears in links in the discusion of today's Smaller sized body-hugging bag (http://forums.tombihn.com/thoughts-tom-bihn-bags/7478-smaller-sized-body-hugging-bag.html) thread. There's also the Tom Bihn Side Effect video (http://www.tombihn.com/blog/video-the-side-effect) referenced in the Blog. I think that @taminca has pictures of some of the accessories that she uses, in addition to the Side Effect, to hold here camera gear in the First trip with Smart Alec as Camera Bag (http://forums.tombihn.com/photos-videos/7339-first-trip-smart-alec-camera-bag.html) thread. There are also threads/pictures showing the use of other bags, such as the Co-Pilot, as camera bags (http://forums.tombihn.com/photos-videos/4682-cardinal-co-pilot-camera-bag-dslr-kit-part-i-post35951.html?#post35951). Hope this will get you started.

moriond

readmore
04-15-2014, 07:38 PM
Yes, Black and Nordic are Dyneema colors that are only available in 400d weight. Steel is available in both weights of Dyneema, but I only have Steel Shop Bags in 200d Dyneema.

For those who are interested, the Large Shop Bag in Steel that is currently in stock is 400d. Picked one up today! (Also of interest, completely off topic, but I saw a Nordic/Solar S19 in the store that is showing as out of stock on the webpage)

Leena
04-16-2014, 04:30 AM
This thread makes me regret that I didn't get the packing cube messenger bag :) I did get the backpack though.

starshine
04-16-2014, 05:52 AM
Hello! Can I ask if the PCSB can withstand being slashed with a razor. I would really like to travel with one as a daily carry. Nothing too expensive in there except maybe a lens but I'm worried about thieves slashing the bag and running.


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Leena
04-16-2014, 06:20 AM
Hello! Can I ask if the PCSB can withstand being slashed with a razor. I would really like to travel with one as a daily carry. Nothing too expensive in there except maybe a lens but I'm worried about thieves slashing the bag and running.


I think Dyneema seems strong but..

I think your best bet would be to have a an interior bag and clip it safely so if your bag somehow does get slashed, your valuable items would stay in the bag.

starshine
04-16-2014, 06:28 AM
Thanks for the feedback.

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Darcy
04-17-2014, 06:46 AM
For those who are interested, the Large Shop Bag in Steel that is currently in stock is 400d. Picked one up today! (Also of interest, completely off topic, but I saw a Nordic/Solar S19 in the store that is showing as out of stock on the webpage)

The Synapse 19 (http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0110.html) in Nordic/Solar is now officially in stock. :) Note that we are running low on Nordic and are likely saving the remainder of it for making Shop Bags and a few other smaller things...

lacyfinn
04-17-2014, 06:50 AM
starshine, I agree. It won't withstand being slashed with a razor, but I kept my wallet and my passports inside of it which were inside of the Tom Bihn side effect and that is made of some pretty tough stuff. Would be hard to get to them through both bags.

scribe
04-17-2014, 08:04 AM
The Synapse 19 (http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0110.html) in Nordic/Solar is now officially in stock. :) Note that we are running low on Nordic and are likely saving the remainder of it for making Shop Bags and a few other smaller things...

Like keystraps? Doesn't take much dyneema to make one of those ;)

Darcy
04-17-2014, 10:05 AM
Like keystraps? Doesn't take much dyneema to make one of those ;)

It's surprising how much Dyneema it takes to make Key Straps! Mostly because to make Key Straps the fabric used needs to be "split" and that's usually most efficient if we split a whole roll of fabric (or close to one). So, you probably won't be seeing Nordic Key Straps as we're saving Nordic to make other bags, but I do hear other colors of Key Straps (in both lengths) are in the works….

moriond
04-17-2014, 10:21 AM
It's surprising how much Dyneema it takes to make Key Straps! Mostly because to make Key Straps the fabric used needs to be "split" and that's usually most efficient if we split a whole roll of fabric (or close to one). So, you probably won't be seeing Nordic Key Straps as we're saving Nordic to make other bags, but I do hear other colors of Key Straps (in both lengths) are in the works….
@Darcy I actually like having a lot of the older solid color Cordura key straps as options, although I have both the Cordura and the Dyneema versions. It's partly that there's a different range of colors with the Cordura versions,including some nice colors that have now gone away (Cayenne, Crimson, Sapphire, etc.) For some of the pouches I attach to the keystraps, like the clear organizer wallets, I distinguish them tactilely by the texture of the fabric (oh, for a return of Cork, Hemp, and Ultrasuede options!) or by the color of the dividers as well as the pouch color. And, by the way, is there any chance of doing more with Ultrasuede in accessories?