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  • Darcy
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    That bag looks a lot like the messenger bag I'd been using for years before I started working for Tom.

    FYI, I've just changed it so you can add pictures to your posts, as long as they're under a megabyte.

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  • xenicon
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    messenger

    What was great about the NYC bag was that it could be adjusted on the fly. Admittedly, messengers need to open and close their bags alot and the buckle rigged this way - with the bitter-end looped back and through-(vide jpg)- made it easy to pay out more of the strap. The loop simply got bigger. Maybe this is what you mean by a cam. The good thing about this buckle was that it could be used in this specialized way or not. Same buckle, different uses.
    The real advantage was tightening the strap (and easily) so the bag fit snuggly across the back while riding. Newer messenger style bags not having this kind of buckle solved the slipping bag problem by adding a strap at the waist but that was an inelegant solution.
    When I ride my bike (I ride it to a commuter train) I don't want my bag to slide off my back and swing down into my elbow. It's an annoyance and distracting aside from making the rider what the italians call "brutta figura." I've just got an Eclipse with the larger strap (for the office) and having it fit tightly is a little work at the beginning of each ride but that is better than having the 6 lbs of pb bounce around (which it does still a little bit.) I can deal.

    On occasion I found the flap had to stay open or half open because I had an awkward package and the closure straps were simply too flimsy to hold the package securely in the bag. When I shifted my weight on the bike, the weight shifted and the bag slipped. What I wished for was an elastic webbing that I could have draped and secured over the package so it wouldn't move. When I was a boy the tent, luggage, etc stayed on the car roof using what we called the "octopus" which was a ring with bungee cords attached to it.
    Maybe the top seam of the bag could have a couple of discreet D rings at the corners and center where an optional webbing could be clipped? The "D" rings might have a slight flap over them so the would be invisible and smooth when not used although they might have uses for hanging a small penlight or keys. If the net's gauge was small enough it could just be tucked away until needed. I might add that the webbing not only could keep things from coming out but could prevent unwanted things from going in.
    Maybe a version could be a very thin sheet of latex attached all the way around but cinched in the middle with an adjustable cord like a stuff sack? This might provide an additional barrier to water getting inside too.






    here's a link to a couple of shots of the old global:

    http://www.mocadc.org/press/global.htm
    Last edited by xenicon; 06-19-2003, 06:02 AM.

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  • Tom Bihn
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    Maybe we first should say that we mean a "messenger style" bag, in other words a bag used/worn by us plebian masses, not by "real" messengers.
    That being said, there are certainly features & functionality that "real" messengers like that could be useful.
    So far, we've had mixed results using a quick-release/cam buckle on our bags: non-messengers mostly find them cumbersome and prefer a "set-it-and-forget-it" adjustment. Alternately, I've tried to make the quick release an optional thing.
    Regards flaps, I'm prototyping this first bag to have no flap, but instead rely on YKK's new Uretek more-or-less waterproof zippers. I like the esthetics of flaps, but their utility is sometime questionable.
    When you say eleastic loops inside, what do you mean? Where?

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  • xenicon
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    new bag

    The old NYC canvas messenger bags ( Global, Martinelli) had a buckle on them which allowed for a quick release w/o disengaging the strap. That was handy.

    A zippered split topflap might be nice for larger things with an elastic strap inside to help secure the bulky or long things (dozen roses, architects drawing tube, etc)

    name? vroom
    Last edited by xenicon; 06-11-2003, 09:59 AM.

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  • Darcy
    started a topic The Super Ego: Any news on the new messenger bag?

    The Super Ego: Any news on the new messenger bag?

    Tom is currently designing a large messenger bag to fit larger laptops and the 17" Powerbook.

    He's practically invented a great new feature on the shoulder strap that will allow you to carry a cell phone, MP3 player/iPod, Walkman, small camera, and any other small electronic.

    Anyway, we're always open to suggestions - any features in particular you guys would like to see on this bag?

    What about a zipper top without a traditional messenger bag flap? Or, if there is a flap, two buckles or one?

    And: have any suggestions on what we should call it?
    Last edited by ; 06-02-2003, 04:05 PM.
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