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    drobinson
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  • drobinson
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    Originally posted by jimmy View Post
    I've used triglide (well unnamed stuff) on other bags (which were sold with them on.. usually for shoulder straps) and generally liked it. Keeps stuff at bay and reasonably easy to adjust - doesn't move.
    I've also used the elastic fabric/bands (which were sold on bags/etc with them on as well.. hint hint ;-) and these never worked well, straps move around specially as the fabric ages.

    Ordering a couple of triglides for now, this forum's great!
    Just checking back in on this subject. I did install Triglides on my S25 and after three weeks of EDC I can report I am totally satisfied. Nothing moves unless I want it to. No extra straps sticking out to catch on things.

    It's a little difficult to un-thread, and re-thread the straps because the folded over ends that prevent the strap from coming loose do their job really well. It is doable with a little patience.



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  • jimmy
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  • jimmy
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    I've used triglide (well unnamed stuff) on other bags (which were sold with them on.. usually for shoulder straps) and generally liked it. Keeps stuff at bay and reasonably easy to adjust - doesn't move.
    I've also used the elastic fabric/bands (which were sold on bags/etc with them on as well.. hint hint ;-) and these never worked well, straps move around specially as the fabric ages.

    Ordering a couple of triglides for now, this forum's great!

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  • Moose
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  • Moose
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    I've always used web dominator a without any trouble. I also have some 1"-ish fairly hefty black elastic bands that I like. They're just elastic sewn into a circle.

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  • haraya
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  • haraya
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    I find that I need/want to adjust my straps frequently (YMMV, of course): to change the fit of the bag and prevent fatigue during a long carry; to adjust it for a different user; to shorten the straps if I'm carrying my pack on one side only (e.g if I'm carrying lots of bags) - or conversely, to lengthen them if the pack is more loaded than usual/interfering with the strap of another bag and I want it to sit lower. So I tend not to be a "set it and forget it" type of user. Again, just my own personal user pattern, which impacts my strap management strategy.

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  • GrussGott
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  • GrussGott
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    Originally posted by haraya View Post
    I got the Web Dominators based on a discussion here. I don't love them. They fall off sometimes.
    I use the tri-glides and they're great as I don't really have to adjust my straps much - I've put them on all my bags including the absolute strap and they lock straps down 100%.

    These were pics for another purpose, but you can kinda see the 2nd tri-glides keep the straps locked down tight (A45 doesn't have the straps clipped in):



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  • haraya
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  • haraya
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    I got the Web Dominators based on a discussion here. I don't love them. They fall off sometimes. The cut-to-fit elastic that came with them just seemed raggedy and unsightly (and kept coming loose) so I replaced them with small elastic hair bands. But I still don't love them, for one because they get caught on things sometimes and (if I recall correctly; they're on a bag I don't use that often) they make it harder to adjust strap length on the fly.

    My favorite strap tidying solution is one that I had on a baby carrier (think Ergo - although it was actually a mama-made brand called Calyx, loved that thing!!). Each strap had a loop of wide elastic (say 1" but basically whatever the width of the strap was) sewn onto the end of the strap, perpendicular to the strap orientation. Once you had the strap adjusted to your liking, you just rolled or folded the excess strap up on itself, then flipped the elastic loop over onto the bundle. If you needed to pull out a little more slack, you could pull out a bit and the loop would usually stay intact. It was impossible to lose because it was right on the strap, and it was soft so it didn't catch or snag. At some point I will get around to sewing some onto my TB pack straps.

    Originally posted by bltkmt View Post
    I have these on my S25 and they are wonderful.

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  • bltkmt
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  • bltkmt
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    Originally posted by LordAnubis View Post
    Backpack strap bands. Easy. "ITW web dominator". Google it and check pics etc. cheap generally too. They used to be sold here. Must be out of stock. But they are only so big. Obviously if the strap is more than a certain size they won't fit properly. Mine will accomodate about 15mm strap width.


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    I have these on my S25 and they are wonderful.

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  • BWeaves
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  • BWeaves
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    OK, the Scunci hair bands don't work. They're a bit too loose.

    By the way, there's no "R" in Scunci. I know people have called them "scrunchies" for years, but the brand is actually Scunci.

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  • moriond
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  • moriond
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    Originally posted by BWeaves View Post
    Has anyone tried those black Scunci hairbands as a keeper?

    I'll try it tonight and report back.
    Some of the advantages of the Velcro wraps I listed over the Scrunchi hair bands are: (1) size is adjustable by how tightly you wrap (with the Scrunchi hair bands, the loop is already in place, and you have to be able to slip it on and off rather than wrap -- and there is a minimum size) and (2) the flat surface, particularly of the wider format chunky tabs, lies flat on the straps. But I haven't tried those hair bands -- because I'd have to go out and buy them to make the experiment, and didn't think it would be worthwhile after examining the product, so please report back if you have these on hand to test.

    moriond

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  • BWeaves
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  • BWeaves
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    Has anyone tried those black Scunci hairbands as a keeper?

    I'll try it tonight and report back.

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  • drobinson
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  • drobinson
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    Originally posted by moriond View Post
    @drobinson,

    The neatest solution I've seen to this is by @tpnl:


    I'll just add that the 1" Tri-glides can be ordered from parts. I'm not sure where @tpnl sourced his D-rings, but I'd be inclined to try Milspec Monkey, which maintains pretty good DIY (do-it-yourself) pages for parts, such as this one for D-rings, and also can be used as a source of web dominators (but you might alternatively order from Amazon).

    As a another variant, see the Tom Bihn Forums Hacks Video Part II starting at 00:39 for @terayon's method, again using Tri-glides.


    As @LordAnubis commented, popular solutions for strap management include web dominators and velcro solutions such as Strapeez.

    For some threads that show web dominators in use, try @thephotomatt's Synapse 25 – A Photo Review + Mods + What's In My Bag thread, Excess strap management, Easy ways to deal with dangly straps, or Corralling (Sp?) Backpack Straps, and other links to posts within these threads.

    For velcro, I prefer Tech Zone - Chunky Large Hook and Loop Fastener Cable Ties or similar other chunky versions of Velcro ties to Strapeez for strap management. Or, if you want narrower Velcro, these iGADGET straps should work.


    HTH

    moriond
    Thanks for digging these out @moriond . All great ideas. I think I'll go for the triglides because I don't adjust shoulder straps often.


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  • BWeaves
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  • BWeaves
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    Originally posted by Zephyrnoid View Post
    Strap Tag End - Retainer Bands. I'm not sure what else to call them and please tell me if the subject has come up before.
    The ring of fabric or leather around a strap or belt to keep the end from flapping around is called a "keeper."

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  • backpack
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  • backpack
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    I think the hack Moriond mentioned is the best:
    As a another variant, see the Tom Bihn Forums Hacks Video Part II starting at 00:39 for @terayon's method, again using Tri-glides.
    It has a great tutorial!

    I like it so much I would like to see that solution standard in all TB backpacks.

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  • moriond
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  • moriond
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    Originally posted by drobinson View Post
    Any resolution to this challenge? I'm wishing I had a way to tidy up my shoulder straps on my Synapse 25.
    @drobinson,

    The neatest solution I've seen to this is by @tpnl:
    Originally posted by tpnl View Post
    I have tried the Velcro ties and they work well. However, I tend to adjust my backpack straps throughout the day and it is hard to adjust on the fly.

    I saw on another backpack that they attached the dangling end webbing to a D-ring that was already threaded through the part of the webbing attached to the bottom of the backpack. I built my own version using a 1" tri-glide and D-Ring.
    To install it, I unthreaded the backpack strap webbing and threaded it through the D-Ring. I then rethreaded it back through the shoulder strap and then through the tri-glide. I then looped it through the D-Ring and then back though the tri-glide (it sounds complicated but is similar to how the Absolute Strap is threaded around the end hook which is not hard to do).

    Here is a picture of the final product. It keeps the dangling ends at bay and allow me to adjust the straps easily.



    This may be too much work to be worth it but I found it a good clean solution if you are willing to do some tinkering.
    I also did something similar for the sternum straps using 3/4" tri-glides and D-Rings.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers!

    Edit:

    I was asked how I threaded the tri-glide and D-ring on each shoulder strap so I have added a few instructions that hopefully will help out a bit:



    Note the tri-glides and d-rings are 1" versions - which is the size that fits the current S25 / SA / BB strap webbing.

    1) Unthread the webbing from the buckle on the backpack shoulder strap (remember how it was done) and thread the d-ring through the (now loose) webbing strap

    2) Rethread the webbing back through the shoulder strap buckle. The D-ring should now be "trapped" between the bottom strap attachment point and the shoulder strap buckle

    3) Once through the shoulder strap buckle, thread the webbing though both openings in the tri-glide. Experiment as to which side you want thread the webbing on the tri-glide as it is slightly arched

    4) Thread the webbing through the d-ring again

    5) Thread the webbing back again through the openings in the tri-glide to secure the end there – essentially, you create a loop. This will requires a bit of work as it will be tight and you will need to adjust the play in the webbing so you have enough length to thread things easier.
    Optional: Depending on how you like it, you can thread the webbing though one or both slits of the tri-glide.

    I have also tried, starting at step 3, just threading though the first opening of the tri-glide, then through the d-ring and then back through the other tri-glide opening. This seems to be an easier way but it is not as "neat" – close though.
    I'll just add that the 1" Tri-glides can be ordered from parts. I'm not sure where @tpnl sourced his D-rings, but I'd be inclined to try Milspec Monkey, which maintains pretty good DIY (do-it-yourself) pages for parts, such as this one for D-rings, and also can be used as a source of web dominators (but you might alternatively order from Amazon).

    As a another variant, see the Tom Bihn Forums Hacks Video Part II starting at 00:39 for @terayon's method, again using Tri-glides.


    As @LordAnubis commented, popular solutions for strap management include web dominators and velcro solutions such as Strapeez.

    For some threads that show web dominators in use, try @thephotomatt's Synapse 25 – A Photo Review + Mods + What's In My Bag thread, Excess strap management, Easy ways to deal with dangly straps, or Corralling (Sp?) Backpack Straps, and other links to posts within these threads.

    For velcro, I prefer Tech Zone - Chunky Large Hook and Loop Fastener Cable Ties or similar other chunky versions of Velcro ties to Strapeez for strap management. Or, if you want narrower Velcro, these iGADGET straps should work.


    HTH

    moriond

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  • LordAnubis
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  • LordAnubis
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    Backpack strap bands. Easy. "ITW web dominator". Google it and check pics etc. cheap generally too. They used to be sold here. Must be out of stock. But they are only so big. Obviously if the strap is more than a certain size they won't fit properly. Mine will accomodate about 15mm strap width.


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