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  • Lodd
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    Originally posted by tpnl View Post
    As an alternative way to attach the hip belt to the Aeronauts, perhaps attaching it directly to where the shoulder strap attaches to the bag will make it more "load bearing"... What it looks like all attached:

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    Just reviving this thread since I'm interested in a padded hipbelt for the WF. What @tpnl has done here looks great for the A45. Could I ask if anyone has tried the same for a WF? And how well did it work?

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  • ThomGault
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    Can anyone else provide their experiences with the padded hipbelt and A30? Preferably on 5'6"-ish folk?

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  • tpnl
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    @GrussGott

    Yes, when I hook up either of the hip belts (1.5"or the 1" gatekeeper version), the actual weight is transferred. I can actually loosen the shoulder straps to the point where they are just for stabilization and all the weight is on the hip belt. It also still feels comfortable. Note that this only applies if you DO NOT attach the hip belt to the normal A30/45 waist belt loops but instead attach it to the same loop that holds the bottom attachment point for the shoulder straps (see my earlier pictures - 2nd post of mine).

    Now, as this is not an internal frame backpack, YMMV depending on what you are carrying. If what you are carrying acts like an internal frame - ie structurally rigid and runs the length of the A30/A45 (full packing cubes, laptop, etc), the hip belts work well to transfer the weight.

    Note - Possible new bag hack is to make an internal sheet frame to the A30/45/TS/WS to facilitate even better weight transfer - now that we have some nice padded hip belts to transfer the weight to: I might be tempted to cut a makeshift frame made of flat plastic (from a Hardware or Craft store) and put it in the backpack strap pocket to make the bag more rigid so the weight is transferred evenly.

    I have tried both the 1" and 1.5" hip belts. For comfort and max load transfer, I prefer the 1.5" version (same one used for the Brain Bag (BB)). This is because the padding is a bit wider and the fact that the way the attachment point is on the bag prevents any twisting that would normally occur due to the size difference between the 1" bag loop and 1.5" gatekeeper on the hip belt.

    The 1" hip belt works great too but I would more use it with the A30 - mainly because I do not necessarily need the extra padding of the 1.5" version as the A30 would not hold as much and it also looks more proportionally correct with the 1" hip belt on the smaller bag (just personal taste).

    This is just my observations and "feel". If there is a more scientific method to test the load transfer, please let me know and I can try it in the future.

    Hope this helps

    Cheers!
    Last edited by tpnl; 11-22-2016, 12:15 PM.

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  • moriond
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    I'm pretty sure that @tpnl's solution transfers some weight to the hips. The problem is that some of these solutions don't scale well if you are not his size. I haven't tried this arrangement yet.

    moriond

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  • GrussGott
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    @tpnl, is it stabilization or does it actually transfer some weight to your hips? I use my A45 for a grocery ruck during city travel and with gallons of water, beer, and all of the other stuff it obviously gets heavy on the shoulders and wondering if this would help me out.

    Thanks!

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  • tpnl
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    You could also try to hook the hip belt to the same connection point that the shoulder straps attaches to (where the shoulder strap attach / release buckle is at the bottom of the bag). It takes a little bit of work to get it on but I find it makes the hip belt work for taking the weight of my A30/45.

    Hope this helps

    Cheers!

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  • Pokilani
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    Padded Hip Belt Question

    Ok, I just walked around the Madison airport and the hip belt doesn't work well for me on the A30. The attachment points sit higher than on my DLBP, so it sits more around my waist than my hips. The downside here is that the belt is now too big for my waist (compared to my hips) so it doesn't distribute the weight that much. It does a teeny tiny bit, but I'll report again when I walk through DTW. For reference, I'm 5'1" and my pant size is a Small or 2/4. I am wearing a light merino sweater and vest so there is a little extra bulk.


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  • sarah_atx
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    Really looking forward to hearing how these work for you guys!

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  • Pokilani
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    I'll be testing mine out with my A30 tomorrow!


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  • Abby
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    My new hip belt here will be here TONIGHT! I am so excited. I have been hoping afor a hip belt for my Aeronaut for a couple of years and it's... almost... here...!!!

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  • tpnl
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    As an alternative way to attach the hip belt to the Aeronauts, perhaps attaching it directly to where the shoulder strap attaches to the bag will make it more "load bearing". The normal attachment point on the shoulder strap (and not on the bag itself) does not work as well to distribute the weight as it does for the backpacks (S25, SA, DLBP). See my earlier post to see what using the normal attachment point looks like.

    I do the above with the original Brain Bag padded hip belt and it works very well for me to distribute weight. It is so good at taking the load off my shoulders that I can actually loosen my shoulder straps to the point where the weight is taken almost fully by the hip belt and it is still comfortable.

    I took a few pictures to hopefully better show what I mean:

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    Closeup of how I attached my hip belt to the A45 (left side):
    Note - because it is attached deep in the A45 "pocket", the hip belt does not twist - even though there is a size difference in the loop / gatekeeper clip.

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    What it looks like all attached:

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    Another neat thing is that you can hook it around the Aeronaut when not in use (instead of having to remove it):

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    YMMV but I have found this quite good when carrying a heavy A45.

    Hope this helps

    Cheers!


    Edit: Forgot to note that with this new setup, the max waist size is slightly reduced (the part of the padded hip belt that is "behind" the gatekeeper attachment clip actually curves onto the back of the bag - see the 4th picture above). But, further on the plus side, it makes the bag extra comfortable as the padding is also on my lower back as well as my sides.
    Edit#2: Note that for the padded hip belt to have the most weight transfer effect, IMHO, the Aeronaut should be pretty rigidly packed to mimic the rigidity (and therefore ability to transfer weight) that the frame provides in an internal/external frame backpack.
    Last edited by tpnl; 11-10-2016, 11:56 AM.

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  • moriond
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    Originally posted by junjie View Post
    Seems like they're out of stock already! Was hoping to try it out on my Aeronaut 45.

    Any ETA for the new batch?
    @junjie and others,

    I haven't seen an announcement go up yet, but when I checked just now it seems as though the 1" padded hip belt has restocked.

    moriond

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  • nutmeg
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    Originally posted by nutmeg View Post
    I'll definitely let you know! Thanks for the insight - I'm really hoping for NWS over Steel, it's such a pretty cloudy color, and that gives me hope. The hip belt was out of stock by the time I placed my order, alas. I'm trying to look at it as a good thing since it'll force me to wait for reviews (hopefully from some people who are of the vertically challenged variety). I'll let you know (and post pics) as soon as I get it
    Customer service just confirmed the remaining Aubergine UMPs have Steel lining - I guess this just means I'll need to buy something with NWS lining to complete the collection!

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  • nutmeg
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    Originally posted by moriond View Post
    @nutmeg, You'll have to tell us whether the lining of your Smart Alec Upper Modular Pocket is Northwest Sky. The date of the last major batch of Smart Alec modular pockets that was formally announced in the forums was at the end of June. At that time, their order for Northwest Sky Halcyon was filled, in error, as Steel, so they used Steel for many items over the next two months, and that included for the Halcyon Modular Pockets. Now, just from memory, I recollect that the Upper Modular Pockets got down to Coyote only, at the end of summer, and that the Upper Modular Pocket page later refreshed with both Black and Aubergine, without any forum announcements. According to the restocking timetable, that should have meant that the last batch used Northwest Sky, but I've never seen this discussed. (My own Aubergine modular pockets for the Smart Alec were acquired some years ago, and use Steel Halcyon for the pockets).

    By the way, if I were buying a new Smart Alec for myself, I would definitely invest in the new padded hip belt, but we should probably wait for the inputs from people of different heights and builds who are trying out the hip belt.

    HTH

    moriond
    I'll definitely let you know! Thanks for the insight - I'm really hoping for NWS over Steel, it's such a pretty cloudy color, and that gives me hope. The hip belt was out of stock by the time I placed my order, alas. I'm trying to look at it as a good thing since it'll force me to wait for reviews (hopefully from some people who are of the vertically challenged variety). I'll let you know (and post pics) as soon as I get it

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  • moriond
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    Originally posted by nutmeg View Post
    Oooo that definitely made me pull the trigger on an Aubergine UMP (I love the abbreviation UMP heh) - sorry if this derails the thread, but - was the lining Northwest Sky on that last batch? I can't for the life of me see see the lining color on the site pic.

    Can't wait to see if my new SA works for me, and then Quick! To the hip belt mobile!
    @nutmeg, You'll have to tell us whether the lining of your Smart Alec Upper Modular Pocket is Northwest Sky. The date of the last major batch of Smart Alec modular pockets that was formally announced in the forums was at the end of June. At that time, their order for Northwest Sky Halcyon was filled, in error, as Steel, so they used Steel for many items over the next two months, and that included for the Halcyon Modular Pockets. Now, just from memory, I recollect that the Upper Modular Pockets got down to Coyote only, at the end of summer, and that the Upper Modular Pocket page later refreshed with both Black and Aubergine, without any forum announcements. According to the restocking timetable, that should have meant that the last batch used Northwest Sky, but I've never seen this discussed. (My own Aubergine modular pockets for the Smart Alec were acquired some years ago, and use Steel Halcyon for the pockets).

    By the way, if I were buying a new Smart Alec for myself, I would definitely invest in the new padded hip belt, but we should probably wait for the inputs from people of different heights and builds who are trying out the hip belt.

    HTH

    moriond
    Last edited by moriond; 11-01-2016, 10:49 PM.

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