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    EU Travel For US Citizens Looking Good for Summer!!

    Per the NY Times:
    “The Americans, as far as I can see, use European Medicines Agency-approved vaccines,” Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, said Sunday in an interview with The Times in Brussels. “This will enable free movement and the travel to the European Union.

    “Because one thing is clear: All 27 member states will accept, unconditionally, all those who are vaccinated with vaccines that are approved by E.M.A.,” she added. The agency, the bloc’s drugs regulator, has approved all three vaccines being used in the United States, namely the Moderna, Pfizer/BioNTech and Johnson & Johnson shots.


    Ms. von der Leyen did not offer a timeline on when exactly tourist travel might open up or details on how it would occur. But her comments are a top-level statement that the current travel restrictions are set to change on the basis of vaccination certificates.



    Last edited by GrussGott; 04-25-2021, 03:46 PM.

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    This is something I've been following for months and is being discussed greatly on travel boards. The big issue is vaccination certificates. What will be accepted and how will they be translated. The U.S. government has said they will not issue them and three states have already banned anything except the CDC card you are given when vaccinated. My money is on an electronic form that will be filled out by the traveler. Too expensive to have everyone go back to where they got vaccinated and have a new form filled out. We're talking millions of Americans.
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      Originally posted by Frank II View Post
      This is something I've been following for months and is being discussed greatly on travel boards. The big issue is vaccination certificates. What will be accepted and how will they be translated. The U.S. government has said they will not issue them and three states have already banned anything except the CDC card you are given when vaccinated. My money is on an electronic form that will be filled out by the traveler. Too expensive to have everyone go back to where they got vaccinated and have a new form filled out. We're talking millions of Americans.
      Yeah, that's probably the sticking point - they mention this:
      it is possible that a low-tech solution would be used in the near future to enable people to travel freely on the basis of vaccination. For example, a traveler to Europe could get an E.U. vaccine-certificate equivalent on arrival after showing a bona fide certificate issued by his or her own government.

      The hope, officials said, is that this step would soon be unnecessary as government-issued vaccine certificates issued by foreign governments would be acceptable and readable in the European Union, and vice versa.

      Thus if the EU accepts the CDC's card, then it's probably a done deal ... seems like it'd be quite easy to counterfeit, but that's another issue. One potential solution, just brainstorming, would be to offer a pre-auth type system like health insurance uses; i.e., most people traveling to the EU from the US have health insurance and if vaccination is part of their medical record and their insurance were to note that, a pre-auth transaction would validate it. Who pays, etc is another question ...

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        #4
        most people traveling to the EU from the US have health insurance and if vaccination is part of their medical record and their insurance were to note that, a pre-auth transaction would validate it.
        It won't work. I got my shots at a small regional pharmacy. My health insurance doesn't cover the area the pharmacy is located. While the pharmacy may have submitted for administrative fee to my insurance company, that doesn't mean the insurance company has a record of my shot information. The only proof we have is the CDC card.

        In two years, any American who wants to travel to Europe, will have to get an ETIAS visa. You will go online, fill out a form, pay a small fee, and it's done. (We make Europeans do the same thing coming here.) A similar system could easily be set up for Covid. The sticking point is they want a universal form that could be understood regardless of its language.

        Let's just be patient and see what happens.
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          #5
          It will be up to private industry to dictate the solution to the vacc./immunity papers system for better or worse imo.

          To broaden the topic of EU travel opening up, the question I have to ask is "Why go to EU if everything is closed down?" I was in the EU with the initial lockdowns last year and EU is great and all, but not much different than the US if you are confined to your place of residence. I read Germany is under curfew lockdowns again as a comment from Merkel. Borders may have check points. Might have to carry papers stating reason to be outside in some countries. The potential of more lockdowns, travel advisories, or travel bans being instituted. I can see the advantages to less tourists out and about at the sites. Again Why go if almost everything is locked down? If you can, should you?

          I thought about going this past winter and those are the thoughts that kept going through my head. I ultimately decided to stay home and think about it for next year. There were, maybe still are, some good-priced flight the end of 2021 that I seriously thought to buy. They're cheap because of the uncertainty for all. I struggled with what I want to do and what I should do. Sorry for my rant.

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            #6
            Don't assume what it going on today will be the same this summer. Summer is still two months away and a lot can happen. If the countries do open up to American tourists, among others, the lockdowns will have to be lessened. Masks, social distancing, and timed entries to some sights is to be expected. But it wouldn't pay to go if everything was closed.
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