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  • maverick
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    hi folks!

    with regard to id checks at airports, my experience has consistently been that when you approach the security line, someone is checking id's by using a flashlight - i guess this is a special flashlight that verifies the authenticity of the document you are presenting, be it a passport, driver's license or other government issued id.

    with regard to liquids in the 3d clear organizer cube, my experience in at least the past year has been that security is becoming more relaxed. note that this can change at any time - it just takes the smallest incident someplace for them to become more strict. but at least recently, it appears to be more relaxed. what i do is pack my liquids in the 3d clear organizer cube. i have it in a pocket where it can easily be pulled out. when i approach the security checkpoint, i ask the security officer whether i should remove my liquids or whether i can leave them in my bag. they usually say you can leave them in your bag. if they say to take them out, then i take them out. i haven't run into a situation where the security officer wants me to move the liquids from the 3d clear organizer cube to one of their plastic zip lock bags. but certainly, if this situation arose, the thing to do would be to comply with their request.

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  • Darcy
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    Originally posted by falconea View Post
    I actually wonder if a combination would be the best solution. The new one in the Swift and other bags, and the old one in the pouches, cubes and stuff sacks? Seems as though it would solve the initial problem, which I imagine is pouches sticking to the sides of the bags, and keep everyone happy.
    That would be nice, but like many of our materials, the Urethane is something that's made to order for us in large quantities, so only one variety at a time works.

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  • Darcy
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    Oh, ok, I see! I don't think anyone has to be concerned about the TSA requiring one to open the 3D Clear Organizer Cube because of the new Urethane specifically. We haven't heard of anyone having problems like that, and none of us have had any issues on our recent travels. But we will continue to appreciate your first-hand reports of how that goes.

    Thanks, pretzelb.

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  • pretzelb
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    Originally posted by Darcy View Post
    That's a clever fix, but something like that shouldn't be necessary - you guys should be able to use the 3D Cube as is! I can easily identify what I have in my 3D Clear Organizer Cube with the new Urethane, even if those items aren't flush against the wall of Urethane. But that's me (and others here at TB.) It sounds like that's not universally the case.

    We've mostly received positive feedback regarding the new Urethane - but those folks also didn't dislike the previous kind as much as you guys dislike the new kind. We note your feedback! I'll let you know if we switch back to the old kind.
    If I understand the issue correctly, it's that using a form of ID with a pouch will require the ID to be removed, and that TSA will require the 3D organizer to be opened when flying.

    For an ID check issue, I still think some places will have rules asking for an ID to be removed no matter how clear the container is. So you could switch back to clear and still have to remove it. For me, it wouldn't make sense to switch to a clear material when it's not a guarantee that it would avoid the ID check issue. If there was some universal rule about ID checks that every organization had to use then it might be worth it but otherwise I think you just can't win them all.

    For the 3D organizer, I just took 2 flights and had no issue. I used to use a TB clear pouch (old style which was totally clear) and I had one agent request I use a ziploc bag instead. I had to remove the contents and place them in a ziploc and run them back through. The agent suggested I use the bag instead. In fact, I saw a sign at the airport that said ziploc bags are what you should be using so if you read the sign literally anything but a ziploc was required. I personally have no problem spotting items in my new 3D organizer. I will have some more flights coming up and can report back if I have a problem with TSA. But if TSA asks me to open the bag I'm not going to be really bothered.

    I originally thought the new material was odd but it's growing on me. I might like it more than the original.

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  • Shiva
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    Audrey: :)
    yes: I wear reading glasses too; and I have to hold the new one a foot away! hehehe.
    The new 3D organizer cube: I took it thru security, but they did make me open it. Never happened with the old one. It could be a one off --ultra odd TSA. Will keep you posted.
    I do like that the new Urethane is less "sticky," but I guess I do not carry a Swift, and so don't have the sticking issue!
    thanks as always for letting us express our honest feedback here.

    Shiva

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  • falconea
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    Darcy,

    Originally posted by Darcy View Post
    It sounds like that's not universally the case.
    I actually wonder if a combination would be the best solution. The new one in the Swift and other bags, and the old one in the pouches, cubes and stuff sacks? Seems as though it would solve the initial problem, which I imagine is pouches sticking to the sides of the bags, and keep everyone happy.

    And I do think that the age of the eyes looking makes a difference - I've only just started needing reading glasses and when I look at the new urethane I have an immediate urge to go and find them. Or to hold the pouch futher away.

    Audrey

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  • Darcy
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    Originally posted by ex machina View Post
    If the flush method works for the wallet, perhaps we can explore experiments in using a folded wash cloth as a cushion to press contents in a 3d cube flush to the face as well?
    That's a clever fix, but something like that shouldn't be necessary - you guys should be able to use the 3D Cube as is! I can easily identify what I have in my 3D Clear Organizer Cube with the new Urethane, even if those items aren't flush against the wall of Urethane. But that's me (and others here at TB.) It sounds like that's not universally the case.

    We've mostly received positive feedback regarding the new Urethane - but those folks also didn't dislike the previous kind as much as you guys dislike the new kind. We note your feedback! I'll let you know if we switch back to the old kind.

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  • ex machina
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    I can see the difference in the photos. I concur that the cloudiness is a factor for designs that require a clear view, such as a wallet or the 3D cube. Now when I get my wallet here, I will see if the cloudiness can be mitigated by having the content pressed flush against the window. I keep enough items in my present wallet that such is the case. If the flush method works for the wallet, perhaps we can explore experiments in using a folded wash cloth as a cushion to press contents in a 3d cube flush to the face as well?

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  • Shiva
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    Thank u for posting the comparison pictures. These are very accurate to my sense of their being not as clear. It is particularly more "cloudy" in the 3D organizer cube. I am wondering what to do about that since i love the 3D---

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  • ams123
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    Here are photos of the clear vs the cloudy plastic. Can you tell which is which? I didn't change the distance or the focus of the camera when I took the two photos.
    Attached Files

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  • ex machina
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    Originally posted by MtnMan View Post
    This thread needs photos!
    I ordered an additional wallet, so when it comes I will post a comparison. :)

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  • MtnMan
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    This thread needs photos!

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  • aiethabell
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    Shiva, Falconea, I fel your pain. I don't like the new urethane, either. Once I bought my 3D and realized just how cloudy the 'see-through' sides were, I immediately asked what Clear Organizer Wallets and Clear Pouches in the old plastic were available, easy to find out when you're feet from the factory!.

    Before I knew it I had 4 Clear Wallets and six more clear-front pouches (in assorted sizes and colors) in my Cafe Bag to take home. Moral of story: if you really, really want the old plastic, call and ask! Or get to the store on an open day. I bought all of mine in July; there might still be some left.

    I wish I wish I hadn't waited to get the 3D until they were changed! I have trouble seeing through it and have left the house without wanted items. That was never a problem with the Clear Quarter Cube (with the old plastic), but I don't have room for it in my Co-Pilot with everything else.

    I never minded the Quarter 'sticking' a little in my Swift, the tradeoff with the easy view through the plastic was acceptable.

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  • Shiva
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    Audrey,
    Glad that someone else on here has some similar experience. I felt this most when I bought the new 3D organizer cube; I gave away my old to a friend who loved it (India!--so can't even get it back!). That is when I noticed how much less clear or see thru: security has never bothered me with the old one--and I would just put it on the tray. With this one, I did have to open it etc., which defeats the purpose. This might have been an one-off--I hope so. I don't know if anyone else has had this experience with the new 3D.

    Yes: I can say I am not a great fan of the "texturing" either--your description made me LOL!

    I like the clear so I can see what is inside of it quickly since I use them so regularly. I am sure TB is taking our feedback seriously...

    Thanks much
    shiva

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  • falconea
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    Originally posted by Darcy View Post
    I think it's perception: what seems not very "cloudy" to me might seem really cloudy to you.
    To my eye it's quite cloudy. Hovever, enroaching age may be a factor! Just comparing samples of both as I type, and the cloudy one really does reduce the visibility of small details, such as fine print on the back of my credit card, which is unreadable behind the cloudy and crystal clear behind the older urethane.

    I also actually hate the feel of it. The surface of my fingers gets a really good grip on smooth surfaces, such as smooth plastic, china, metal, glass. They slide on the new urethane which I actually find unpleasant.

    It also feels dirty - the slight texturing in it feels just like a piece of sticky silicone which is covered in dust.

    All that said, I don't use clear anything much - I always buy the standard organiser pouches and not the clear ones.

    Just another opinion to feed into the decision making process!

    Audrey

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