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    New Macbook First Impressions?

    I'm curious if anyone has the new Macbook yet and what you think of it? We have had ours a few days and so far it seems like it should be a massive success - just curious what everyone else thinks of theirs.

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    Is this the version with only one port? I was wondering how functional that new feature would be. I have a couple of things that are almost always plugged into a usb port and I don't know if it would be easy/practical to have only the one, especially since that is also the power plug.
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    I tested one out over the weekend. If they made an adaptor for their own monitors, we'd have bought one in A heartbeat. I use my Apple monitor everyday at work. They make one for VGA and HDMI...


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    I keep hovering over the Buy Now button but the 4 to 6 week wait for delivery in the UK puts me off (I wonder if they might appear in the Apple stores first).


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    It is irritating that there isn't yet an adaptor to permit use of the USB-C only new Macbook with a DisplayPort enabled monitor. Apparently the new USB-C interface supports native DisplayPort output up to a particular resolution, but of course the physical connector is different. I find it really odd that Apple didn't have this particular bit of accessory kit ready for the launch!

    I did pop into the Apple Store in Covent Garden last week, and was advised that they're awaiting delivery of new stock probably in that same 4-6 week period. It's very annoying - I am in the market for a new laptop, and it would certainly fit the bill, but there's no way I'll drop that kind of dosh without trying one out first...
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    I am curious to know if anyone has bought the new 12 inch Macbook, and how you like it in real life. Does the weight savings make up for any extra adaptors you need to carry due to the single port? How does one use a USB stick with this computer?

    I had an ancient but reliable 11 inch Macbook Air that was my travel computer, for work and personal life, as it was so small and light. Sadly, it was lost last February, due to some careless spillage of a drink. I am debating buying another refurbished 11" MBA vs. the new 12" model. I actually need to make a decision in the next few days so I will have it for an upcoming trip... it has taken me this long to come to terms with the loss of my last model, and the need to replace it.

    The 12" is much more expensive, obviously, but I'm wondering if the extra inch of screen would mean that I could use it as my only laptop, for home and travel. On the other hand, my instincts tell me to not invest in the first iteration of a completely new line.
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    Not just the extra inch, but the retina display too. We use the Apple Displays at work and to my knowledge, there is not an adapter for that yet. That is the one thing preventing me from pulling the trigger for my partner.


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    The 12 MacBook uses the intel M processor. It was described to me by a few Apple Specialists (a store manager, an Apple rep for a major university, and an Apple rep for a hospital interface system) as a glorified netbook. The MacBook Air with its i5 is still far more powerful. This only becomes relevant however, if mac updates its software (NEWSFLASH: it does). New platforms are what test the processing speed, as consumers want faster, more seamless designs.

    "Fortunately for most - Apple updates their software every year! Unfortunately for MacBook buyers - they might soon find their netbooks a little "bogged". "

    Hope this helps. I was DEAD SET on getting the new 12" and I was chastised out of it from a longevity standpoint.
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    Talking

    I have been using one for several weeks now and it is awesome. I do a lot of what I would call hardcore productivity computing—nothing overly processor intensive like video or audio recording, but a lot of applications and multitasking.

    • On the speed, I work fast and I care a lot about the snappiness of the interface, and I think the Macbook delivers notwithstanding the M processor (though I did upgrade to the fastest one that was available). I migrated from a 2011 11" Air and it is on par or faster for heavy word processing, web browsing, mail/calendar/messaging, etc.

    • It is hard to overstate how much nicer the Retina display is versus the Air's. If you're on the fence, go look at one in person, but it is so much crisper and easier to read for documents with fine print that it's a hugely valuable upgrade for me.

    • The screen is physically bigger than the 11" Air's, too, with a much smaller bezel.

    • The new trackpad is great. Force Touch seems like a gimmick, but the haptic feedback succeeds in making it feel like a trackpad with a real button. The trick is that you really won't notice the difference even if you're paying close attention.

    • The new keyboard is definitely different; the keys don't travel as much, for sure. I find it takes a moment of adjustment when I start, but once my muscle memory kicks in, I can go just as fast as on any other keyboard. As a bonus, the keys are bigger (nice if you have big hands, though I don't) and the pinpoint backlighting is very nice. The only bummer is the change to the up-down keys, which are now half-size.

    • The one-port complaints are a tempest in a teapot, IMO. I have the multiport dongles at home and at the office (with a USB 3.0 hub attached to one) and I can't think of anything I really want to plug in that I can't (I have wired gigabit Ethernet, USB backup drives, Lightning connections, etc.). Of course, it won't do Firewire or Thunderbolt, but USB 3.0 is good enough for the kinds of things you'd want to do on this laptop anyhow. And, it is super-convenient to be able to plug just one cable in to get power, your monitor, and peripherals and then unplug it and go. The only real bummer is the price of the dongles, which are way too expensive. (This is definitely not the laptop you want if you're trying to save money.)

    • The battery is vastly improved over the old Air (though not as good as the new one, as I understand it). I can work most of the day without a charge and confidently take it from my desk to meetings without worrying about not making it through.

    • I find the weight and thinness improvements to be totally worthwhile, too. I pack my laptop in a Daylight Briefcase most days and with the 11" Air in a cache (and a bunch of other stuff), it was stuffed to the gills. The new MB in the new Cache (with the same load) is substantially thinner to the point that I have extra "breathing room" putting things in and out of the bag.

    • Very minor point, but the new color choices (Space Grey, namely) look super-sharp. It's a beautiful machine.

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    @WillisR - that's what I call a really useful review! I'm in much the same boat regarding use cases and you've more or less just cemented my intention to get one of these machines as soon as I can lay my hands on one. The combination of enough grunt to do useful work (I think the 8GB of memory as standard makes quite a difference over older machinery with less, and having an SSD to page to if it needs to instead of rotating media will also help), a full size keyboard and gorgeous screen, and the featherweight portability aspect will I suspect hit the sweet spot for a lot of people. Granted, this isn't the machine to do heavy photo processing or video editing on, but if you want a full featured machine which travels very light it seems ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulT00 View Post
    The combination of enough grunt to do useful work (I think the 8GB of memory as standard makes quite a difference over older machinery with less, and having an SSD to page to if it needs to instead of rotating media will also help), a full size keyboard and gorgeous screen, and the featherweight portability aspect will I suspect hit the sweet spot for a lot of people. Granted, this isn't the machine to do heavy photo processing or video editing on, but if you want a full featured machine which travels very light it seems ideal.
    Nailed it. I forget to mention, too, that the weight reduction is really noticeable in a shoulder bag, and the size difference from comparable laptops (even the 13" Air) is a huge bonus if you fly coach a lot and have to work on the plane. A Retina MBP performs better in a lot of respects (the MB is pretty pokey with my big Photos library, for example), but portability is definitely not one of them.

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    I should chime back in on this...WillsR I agree with everything you said. That review is excellent and completely accurate. Ours also lives in a TB Cache when not in use. (-;

    As stated over and over it is not for heavy processing but to be honest how many of us actually use our laptops for heavy computing like video and audio editing? It runs Photoshop (for basic editing, not major batch processing of raw files) just fine. Parallels works great. Although it is the M processor, Apple did a great job of making everything efficient. I don't worry about the software updates in the future, tech always seems to age fast.

    One thing I can say is it is just as fast, if not faster, than my 3 year old i5 Macbook Air that I use every day all day for work.

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    Very helpful!
    Now I'm wondering if I should have gone with the Macbook.Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) I did get a new 11" MBA, and I think I'll keep it for now. I'm going to sell my older laptop, when I get back from traveling, to make up some of what I paid.
    The screen on the 12" is definitely better. I could see that in the store. However, I don't use my laptop during the day for work, and I also have a desktop computer at home, with the possibility as well of connecting my tiny MBA to a monitor to make up for its tiny display. So I think I should be ok with it.
    I want to go back and consider whatever the current iteration of the Macbook is in a year or so. I have found that Macs hold value and can be sold on eBay to fund upgrades. If one doesn't spill a drink into the keyboard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bchaplin View Post
    Now I'm wondering if I should have gone with the Macbook.Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) I did get a new 11" MBA, and I think I'll keep it for now.
    Don't get me wrong: I rolled with an 11" MBA for years and it was my favorite laptop of all-time. They are great machines and the battery improvements and additional ports on the new ones make them a worthy alternative to the Retina MB. It was a close call for me and practically speaking, the differences between the two are unlikely to result in a huge dealbreaker one way or the other for most people. And I'm sure I'll be terribly jealous of your decision when the next rev of the Retina MB comes out!

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    Considering that I am still using my 8 year old black macbook (Core 2 Duo, 3GB memory {actually 4GB but MacOS can only see 3}) I think I'm fairly qualified to state that Mac laptops generally don't age as fast as PC laptops tend to do. It's still working quite happily, running Snow Leopard 10.6.8, and could be upgraded to Lion if I really had to (although I don't see the need). When I got it, it was running Tiger (10.4). That's the equivalent of taking a machine from 8 years ago running Windows XP and upgrading it successively to Vista, then Win7, then Win8. Hmmm... can't really imagine that working!

    Also, Apple have been very focused over the last few years on efficiency and improving battery life, and have a very tightly integrated software/hardware environment which they keep optimising. This has the beneficial side-effect of reducing the processor power needed, relatively speaking. So I'm not concerned that a new macbook will undergo a fatal slowdown over the next couple of OS releases, because Apple have learned that people like to have machines which have responsive user interfaces and which they can use all day instead of being tethered to a power socket and are, therefore, likely to continue optimising the software. The only real worry is that they might radically change hardware platforms (again) and start building Macs based on multicore ARM chips instead of Intel processors. Remember that the iPad Air 2 is based on an Apple specified ARM processor, running an OS which is basically very similar to Yosemite, having started as a fork of MacOS, and with the new version of MacOS they've just announced you can see functional convergence going from iOS back into the core MacOS... But even then I'm not *too* worried, if Apple do decide to change architectures again they'll do it in a gradual way and support backward compatibility for a fair while; don't forget, they already moved from Motorola chips (original Mac hardware) to PowerPC chips and then to Intel... each time continuing to support the older machines for some years. If I were Intel I'd be very worried...
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