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I don't see a problem. There's plenty of room for your lips.
I think I've seen a few posts where people were surprised by the actual dimensions, because they were expecting the published dimensions to match the distance from seam to seam, rather than the method shown here. Maybe it would be a good idea to publish both?
Knowing the seam-to-seam measurements is helpful because it means we can make a paper mockup of an item and get an idea of the size in 3D--something I did once after seeing a forum post about doing so. Now I'm realizing my mockup was inaccurate!
Darcy, thanks for the pictures, and the welcome.
I can see now where you got the three inches for the depth. On the other hand, you seem to be paying Paul without robbing Peter, so to speak. Anything past the side seams that you add to the depth measurement really has to be subtracted from the width measurement. It can’t be both depth and width; you can’t change the circumference. I could take the same bag and put nothing in it but a really wide flat book so that the whole bag was pulled out flat and say that the bag was eight inches wide, but that wouldn’t be very helpful. Having seam to seam measurements and knowing that the bag is flexible I could make a pretty good judgement about what would fit.
Sorry to be so argumentative. I’m a retired programmer and I get hung up on details. I do like the bags very much. And I would love a slightly larger version to add to my growing collection.![]()
The bigger problem I see is that the puffed 3" depth in the middle is not also available at the bottom; the bottom seam doesn't allow for any distortion of the dimension and appears closer to 2" instead of 3", which is a dramatic proportional difference. Which of course is fine if all customers understand and expect the variance, but, as an uninformed customer, I would expect a measurement from seam to seam, with a static depth from top to bottom on a non-flared bag (also assuming the cubelet isn't designed to flare on the sides---its name suggests pure 90 degree angles for every corner.)
Last edited by ThomGault; 09-07-2018 at 10:54 AM.
I would have thought so, but the contents must have gotten shifted around during all the measuring because the width and height measurements listed are also slightly larger than those I got when I measured seam to seam.
The measurements on the website are 5.7” (w) x 7.3” (h) x 3” (d).
The numbers I got are 5.5” (w) x 7.1” (h) x 2.3” (d).
The circumference using their measurements would be 17.4". Using my measurements the circumference comes out as 15.6" (and I measured at the widest and deepest part of the bag). It's not an enormous difference but it's noticeable on such a small bag.
I understand perfectly how you feel!
I have dreamed for a long time of a mini Cafe Bag and the TC is just perfect in that way, it also fits in the Small Cafe Bag, perfectly. This might be the bag you want so the Kobo Clara can fit. I have a Kobo Aura and it can fit in the Small Cafe Bag.
Darcy's PPS is duly noted, "a P.P.S. Maybe someday we'll make a slightly larger size of the Travel Cubelet! Hmm...."
Darcy where did you get the kitty measuring tape?
It looks like it could be from Daiso.
I would love a travel cubelet that was a little bit bigger...
I hear you @tbsue — we have a couple programmers here at TB. I’m not one, but I get (and appreciate) that way of seeing things.
FWIW I don’t get the sense here you’re being argumentative — you’re making some points/sharing your opinion in a totally respectful way. This is a good example of constructive feedback.
I talked with Tom about this and he reminded me that we actually used to list the seam-to-seam measurements. We switched to the reasonably-filled-volume measurements because we got the opposite feedback: seam-to-seam wasn’t helpful because soft bags do “give” while in use in one direction or another. Therefore, the engineered or seam-to-seam dimensions do not reflect the actual or overall size of a bag in use. Specifically, folks wanted to know how a reasonably loaded bag would (or wouldn’t) fit into a specific rigid space, such as the overhead bin of an airplane.
Giving seam-to-seam dimensions for a bag like the Travel Cubelet makes sense because it’s relatively rectilinear (its seams are on its edges). Seam-to-seam dimensions on a more curvy bag like the Synapse are confounding and of little use because there’s hardly a straight line on the bag and the seams are not always situated on its “edges”, such as they are.
While we see that offering both the seam-to-seam and reasonably-filled-volume measurements could be* the answer, we’re hesitant to go that route because at this time we’re investigating other methods for conveying dimensions that we hope will work better for everyone.
*It’s possible that adding both sets of dimensions might lead to confusion. We’ll mull that over further if the other methods we’re investigating don’t pan out.
It's from the local fair trade goods store! They always have some little cool treasure like that when I go there.
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