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    LSB and PCSB: Halcyon 200d vs Ballistic 210d

    For the Large Shop Bag and Packing Cube Shoulder Bag, how much difference, or what difference(s), does the Halcyon 200d vs Ballistic 200d fabrics affect bag look and use?

    For the LSB, does ballistic stand upright when empty better? Does the ballistic fold down as compact or easy as halcyon?

    For PCSB, does ballistic give the bag more structure in the ballistic 200d version?

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    I have the small ZTSB in halcyon and ballistic, and if anything, the halcyon has more structure. The ballistic is more supple, and maybe because it's a tiny bit heavier denier, collapses faster. Both stand up, but gravity affects the ballistic a little more. Subtle as it is, I imagine this effect would be exaggerated in the OLSB? The piping provides the structure, really, so the differences really are negligible.

    Island Halcyon OLSB, standing up but sagging (this bag is about a year old, gets used ALL THE TIME, so has softened up)
    LSB and PCSB: Halcyon 200d vs Ballistic 210d-mvimg_20190209_163158-jpg



    Iberian Halcyon small ZTSB, quite perky (this one is only a few months old, doesn't get used every day, remains crisp)
    LSB and PCSB: Halcyon 200d vs Ballistic 210d-mvimg_20190209_162500-jpg




    Black ballistic small ZTSB, droopy (I just got this a couple weeks ago, have carried it twice, so it's like new)
    LSB and PCSB: Halcyon 200d vs Ballistic 210d-mvimg_20190209_162533-jpg




    Edited to add: in terms of packing down, the suppleness of the ballistic fabric turns out to pack down just a teeny, tiny bit smaller and less poofy than the halcyon.
    LSB and PCSB: Halcyon 200d vs Ballistic 210d-img_20190209_164714-jpg
    Last edited by Lia; 02-09-2019 at 02:50 PM.

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    Agree with @Lia.... the fabrics are pretty similar in performance... for me, it's about having other options in terms of colour and the overall 'look' of the solids vs the white stripes
    Steel/Island A45&Pilot; Steel/Solar WF&CP; Blk/Canyon S19; Steel Halcyon/Solar S19; Navy/NWSky A30; Blk Halcyon/NWSky SA; Olive/Canyon Luminary

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    Thanks for the helpful pictures and information. I was expecting ballistic 210d to have more structure based on threads discussing higher denier ballistic vs higher denier halcyon fabric so I am very glad I asked. I had just bought a 'lifetime' supply of original large shop bags in halcyon last month, may need to get a ballistic version to add to my collection.

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